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ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for October 16, 2010

I have read that in the year of 2005, some Senior members of the Masonic held a secret meeting in London to discuss the launching of World War III before or after 2012. So as to use biological warfares and nuclear war to destroy the world population, particularly the eradication of yellow race, including the main population of China and Iran. After launching the war and achieving their purpose of eradicating the world population, the truce will be announced, a worldwide powerful and centralized government will be managed to build up in order to govern various countries. The Zetas have said that the poleshift would result in 90% of the population perish on the planet, but if there indeed will be World War III, which will lead to most population extinction, then it is conflicting with poleshift theory . Is Masonic planning to launch the World War III before or after 2012?

Prophecies made about the End Times often have a mix of speculation about warfare, great reduction in the populace, and attempts at world dominance. This all certainly can be predicted based on what is known about the future. The Earth's transformation has been scheduled for this time. Polarization of the spiritual orientations into Service-to-Other and Service-to-Self camps always occurs during a Transformation. This is because the Service-to-Self sense they are being pushed off the planet and struggle to retain a piece of the pie, as they did on Earth attempting to retain S America and Africa as Service-to-Self continents. Therefore, attempts at world dominance, and plans to this end, emerge among Service-to-Self elites. The polarization is also because those in the Service-to-Other on the planet are preparing to ignore those in the Service-to-Self in the future, after 3rd density, and are practicing their skills in this regard.

This tends to enrage the Service-to-Self, who make threats and attempt to intimidate. It is predictable that starvation would increase as the time of the pole shift approached, due to the Earth changes anticipated. Starvation predictably has two factors that would impel toward war. Leaders frequently point the finger across the border to blame another country or culture so as to focus the anger in the citizenry away from the leaders. And often, when one country seems to have more food and good fortune than another, there is a prize to be sought by invasion. We have stated that WW III will not occur, though sabre rattling will occur, because there is no prize to be gained by an invasion. All are suffering, and none have food stocks. The invasion of Iraq was for oil, but even this prize can no longer muster enthusiasm for an invasion.

The elite, being basically of the Service-to-Self orientation, like rules and structure. This is true of organized religion and royalty too. Thus the association of the elite with organizations like the Masons, which are so highly structured. The elite are also variously classified into the Illuminati or the New World Order crowd, but regardless of how classified, the organization and focus of the elite remains the same. They wish to dominate, retain their position on top of the pile, and to take advantage of any turmoil to sculpt the future to their liking. This has always included population control, even in eons past. Those in the Service-to-Self do not care about the suffering of others, and look upon the common man as a commodity to be used for their benefit. If the common man is useful as a slave labor force, then keep them. If not, then eliminate them as a worrisome threat as they may potentially spread disease or riot. The stories of plans to eliminate vast swaths of the populace by biological warfare or pandemics, the spread of disease via vaccinations or chemtrails, and forced labor camps whereby only the hale would survive have their basis in fact, as we have so often pointed out.

The Bush/Cheney administration was very much in sympathy with these efforts and attempted to facilitate this agenda. Since losing the White House when no longer able to effect election fraud via their paperless Diebold voting machines and frank manipulation of voter tallies, those supporting the Bush/Cheney administration have gone underground. Of course they meet periodically and plot and plan. This is no longer the issue. The chemtrail effort is run by the wealthy, not the US government. It was intended to have the US military join the effort to poison the citizenry, but when the US military discovered this plan, and rebelled, sickening the populace via chemtrails stopped. It is now a fogging operation, to help hide Planet X from the citizenry. This has been the trend since Obama took office. The New World Order can no longer count on the support of the US government. The elite are on their own, and shrinking back into their bunkers.

Can you recommend any particular Flower Essences that may help us now and in the future, such as Fig-Hidden fears eased, fear of unknown origin or for cleansing specific miasms that we will need in the future?

Man is always looking for magic cures, especially since becoming aware of the pending cataclysms and the sudden drop in the standard of living that will afflict the industrialized countries. Surely benign space brothers will turn Planet X away, or rescue mankind (though they do not do that today), or welcome mankind into their domed cities where they can live disease and worry free. The tools that mankind has at his disposal today is what he will have in the future, after the pole shift. Of course technology and modern medicine will go away, and opportunistic germs will increase their range, and health will suffer due to malnutrition and starvation in general. But garden fruits and vegetables, wild edibles, herbal medicine that are known today are what you will have at your disposal! There is a psychological element of wish fulfillment in all of this. Perhaps a magical object, or a strong scent, or a wild plant reported to have magical properties will take the worry away. And in that the will to live and having lots of confidence does factor into survival, this in and of itself can be a benefit. So if you think that fig tea will cleanse your miasms and help you survive, then dream on!

What's up with both Google and Apple locating 2 of the world's most massive new data centers within 30 miles of one another in a backwoods region of North Carolina? There were/are, indeed, low cost electrical power, tax and land incentives to attract both of these fierce Internet & IT technology industry competitors. However, it seems more than coincidental that both of these massive data centers - which, in effect, constitute the construction of the largest new Internet backbone node in the entire United States - were purpose built in a distinctly non-techie, rural and relatively unknown and sparsely populated area of North Carolina. At locations about 100 miles distance from the ZT recommended 100 mile outer danger boundary marker of and at 700+ foot altitudes above the ZT projected 200 foot altitude impact of any Pole Shift related east coast tsunami. Plus both of these locations are at least 225+ feet above the ZT projected 675 foot altitude Pole Shift Aftermath flood zone in North Carolina. And it connects to Virginia, the geographical left hand seat of U.S. political power! Would ZT care to comment if these moves merely represent a forcing function of cutting edge industry economics and competitive strategy factors - OR - if these maneuvers are disguised strategies to deal with the potential adverse impact of Pole Shift. Damage to the corporate influence and control of information flow in the AfterTime of two of America's most important information technology and data/media networking companies. Ergo control of the population in the AfterTime via control of the information flow (Google for information control and Apple for controlled entertainment of the populous)?

A graphical map representation of the U.S. IP (Internet) backbone shows that the major east coast backbone route links the major Internet node of Atlanta to the major Internet node of Virginia/Washington, D.C. Hickory, NC is about midway along this route between Atlanta and Washington, D.C. Both Maiden and Lenoir, the rural hosts for these massive new data centers, are located within 20 miles of Hickory, NC. The elevation of Maiden, NC is 899 feet and it is located approximately 180 miles from its nearest eastern coastline at Myrtle, South Carolina. The elevation of Lenoir, NC is 1182 feet and at its closest reach is located about 210 miles from the east coast.

These two companies are quite obviously aggressive competitors who need to differentiate their strategies, it seems quite coincidental and statistically implausible that these competitors would choose to almost co-locate within 30 miles of one another in a backwoods, non-techie, sparsely populated and relative unknown region of North Carolina near the base of the Appalachian mountains. Are these maneuvers related to the mounting necessity of the government and the elite to locate massive data centers in a Pole Shift safe region of North Carolina that is far enough away from and high enough to avoid damage from a tsunami effecting the east coast, as well as provide elevation safety from the 675 foot high future sea level within 2 years of the Pole Shift?

The wealthy elite have long considered North Carolina an ideal spot for their pole shift enclaves. As much as we preach that the world's infrastructure will go down and not come back, this arrogant crowd thinks otherwise. They are prepared to rebuild the world's Internet from the backwoods of North Carolina, with massive databases filled with cached data from which websites lost elsewhere in the world can be rebuilt. They are presuming that hydroelectric power can be gotten from the many streams and the rapid drop in elevation in many places in the Appalachian mountains. Where all of this is true, all structures will sustain damage in the magnitude 9 quakes striking worldwide. Surfing the Internet will be the last thing on anyone's mind in the aftermath of the horror. The estates of the rich will be shattered and collapsed, the servants run off, the guards getting uppity, food stocks being pillaged by animals and looters, and reports from elsewhere around the world bringing news that elsewhere, it is no better. Then our description of the broken link whereby technology will not return applies. Electricity will come from generators, which will run out of fuel quickly. The assumption that the US government would establish supply lines quickly will meet reality when the military either does not show up or shows up with demands to be fed and housed. Google and Yahoo will be just another death as a result of the pole shift.

What meters will Big EQ (M9+) in southern Island occur tsunami? For Example, in Tokyo, Osaka, and others. Do Japan new government and ISS Japanese crew know M9 EQ and Poleshift and Plane X? Where will be the epicenter of Southern Island EQ and Northern Island EQ? [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami Tsunamis are a frequent occurrence in Japan; approximately 195 events have been recorded. The Okushiri, Hokkaido tsunami which struck Okushiri Island of Hokkaido within two to five minutes of the earthquake on July 12, 1993 created waves as much as 30 metres (100 ft) tall-as high as a 10-story building. [and from another] http://www.answers.com/topic/tsunami In Japan, in 1896, a wave that reached a height of about 65 feet (20 meters) killed about 26,000 people in villages around Sanriku.

Historically, Japan has suffered tsunami as high as 100 feet. Japan anticipates such tsunami on its South Island, as plate movement is not new, and the direction of movement also not new. However, the tipping of the Philippine Plate will be more extreme this time, so in an abundance of caution those concerned about tsunami should avoid the coastlines that will be affected by quakes in the South Island and allow for a tsunami at a potential height of 100-135 feet. The Japanese government most assuredly is aware of the presence of Planet X and the tight security that the US and major governments have imposed on this information. They have been part of the cover-up for over a decade.

Questions about the position of the equator and the poles after the pole shift: The map at ../poleshft/pgeon.gif shows the new positions of the equator and the poles after the pole shift.
1) On that map, the new equator goes thru the old South Pole. Every equator is a great circle of a shpere, and so if the new equator goes thru the old South Pole, then -- as a great circle -- it must also pass thru its' antipode at the old North Pole. But, since the poles are on a diameter, that fact does not determine the old longitude of the new equator. Two possibilities are indicated on the map.
2) The map shows the new equator passing thru the Bering Straight and touching the eastern tip of the largest island (Big Diomede). The old longitude of that location is 170 degrees west. In that case, since the new equator is a great circle, it should also lie on old longitude 10 degrees east on the opposite side of the Earth.
3) The map shows the new equator passing over the western tip of Africa, at a position that appears to be at 14, 15, or 16 degrees east old longitude (not 10 degrees).
The poles are always 90 degrees up and down from the equator, and since the new equator passes thru the old poles, the new poles should be on the old equator.
4) The map shows the new South Pole to be at or near to the southern tip of old India at about 80 degrees east old longitude and 6 degrees old latitude. However, 90 degrees west of 170 degrees west old longitude (the new equator) is 100 degrees east old longitude, not 80.
5) The map shows the new North pole to be in the Atlantic ocean not far from the eastern coast of Brazil. But 90 degrees east of 170 degrees west old longitude (the new equator) is 80 degrees west old longitude, which on the old equator should strike the eastern coast of Equador, perhaps 60 degrees further east.
Why the discrepancies? Will the continents have shifted that much? Does the map correspond to Earth in third density or fourth density?

For those still struggling with the new geography, trying to get their head around what their new latitude will be, where north will be located, and perhaps trying to determine what their new polar star(s) will be, there is not much more that we can do beyond giving you the exact position of the new poles and the new geography map which Nancy has provided since the start of the ZetaTalk saga. There are those who have drawn the new geography on the existing globe and done animations. What is left is for you to be able to conceptualize this matter, and not be rigid in your mindset. We have stated that the Pacific shortens, primarily by folding near the Philippine Plate. The Atlantic will rips apart, the Caribbean Plate and the tongue holding Indonesia will be pushed down or ground up. Great rifts will develop so that an inland bay is produced from Karachi up into Russia, and the N American Seaway will widen greatly. If it is beyond you to comprehend these changes, then simply look at the new geography depicted and say "well, there it is".

We have been discussing what is meant to ultimately be our survival of cataclysms due to the passage of Nibiru. I feel that we have such a wealth of accumulated knowledge and information from yourself and the Zetas that those who review all of the available material at this point might be able to insure their future survival, barring circumstances not in their control. In fact it appears that with sufficient fortune some survival communities, especially those that are exclusively STO, and of reasonable numbers, and in the right location may even thrive in the aftertime. This brings a question to my mind. If the long term future is to find this as the home for the hybrid offspring of our races, do we want to do everything to insure our survival except for procreation? I realize that the majority of survival communities will not be in a position to worry about this necessarily. But if there are some STO communities that are so fit to survive that the possibility of bearing human children exists, should there be a conscious effort to not have children, through contraception, folk remedies, etc.? Will such communities find themselves counciled openly by yourselves? Am I worrying about something that is so unlikely as to be an exception to the rule? I ask this because I believe that there are enough of us out there that truly intend to make the future of those that we help be as joyous and wholesome as possible. And what can be more joyous and wholesome than raising children, even if they are not our own?

Children will be born after the pole shift to strictly human parents, as they are today, mostly without a thought to their future lives. How many children are truly planned? Catholic countries forbid contraception, and in many countries such as in Africa or India a man's wealth is measured by the number of his children. The fact that many will die of starvation or suffer brain damage due to lack of nutrition is not considered. Then there are those who choose to have a baby as a toy, as a status symbol of womanhood or manhood, regardless of the population explosion. After the pole shift, conception will occur even more often for careless and thoughtless reasons. A good portion of the populace will be insane, and those who were held back by fear of prosecution will rape freely. Due to poor nutrition, most conceptions will abort, or the infants left to die in the elements, abandoned.

Even in stable survival communities pregnancy will create dissention. Starvation will always be the wolf at the door, and the community members exhausted with the effort of growing enough food for all. That another mouth is on the way, either due to careless sex or deliberate intention, will infuriate many. There are many things that those used to the comforts of what mankind likes to call modern day living will miss. They will miss soft living, being able to buy ready-made meals, entertainment such as TV or video games, music on demand, being able to travel, pesticides and herbicides, flush toilets, bar hopping, and being able to have an affair. Contraception will be mainly via willpower. Those used to soft living will be resentful of calluses, aching muscles, infections suffered without antibiotics, and tattered clothing. Another mouth, a crying babe, is not something that will be welcomed. If you are thinking otherwise, you are not being realistic.

In the aftertime, in a last ditch effort to save the community, when all else fails, an STO steps forward and volunteers to take up a weapon and get rid of an STS that just wouldn't leave them in peace. How will this act manifest in the future of this STO person, karma-wise?

The point where a Service-to-Other individual feels justified in taking action against another cannot be quantified or categorized, as the variables are too many. For some, their inclination might be to wait until the last possible moment, allowing the threat of danger to come to the point where a life is being threatened to take action, but for others the obvious possibility that this is likely to occur might be enough. It depends. Is the threat bluster, or is their reason to believe otherwise? We have given the example of a pedophile being killed because the evidence against him was virtually undeniable and to simply chase him away would allow him to prey on other children left defenseless after the pole shift. Which is the lesser evil? To spare the pedophile's life would mean countless innocents would have their lives shattered with memories which often result in multiple personality development. Don't the children count in these matters? Are you to establish and maintain prisons so you can spare the pedophile's life? What you do in this lifetime is what impels you toward the Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self orientation, and this is the ultimate manifestation of your actions, not any future karma.

It seems NASA wants to play. http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/10102010-1 Recently in pictures SOHO the strange object very similar to Planet ?, but with square wings and an unnatural tail began to appear. At once it is visible that it artificial! Obviously, it is a new method of complication of people! What about it can tell Zetas? Standart and real Planet X. New type of object with square wings and unnatural tail.

The more distinct appearance of Planet X or its Moon Swirls in the SOHO images is not due to NASA playing games, beyond the usual game playing they do. As is apparent from the appearance, the SOHO images are not a quick snap but somewhat of a long exposure. At a distance, stars and planets and objects near the Sun so not register much movement, though movement occurs. But nearer at hand the long-exposure image will show this movement, which comes across as a block with clean-cut edges. If a rapid shot, it would approximate the earlier images. Of note is the leading point, which is either Planet X itself or the dominant moon in a Moon Swirl. We have stated that Planet X continues on its trajectory, coming closer. It is also true that the magnetic N Pole of Planet X continues to point toward Earth, and thus the immense tail and Moon Swirls are pushed in this direction. This is thus not a NASA cover-up, but an approaching Planet X!

For the past few months I've just been reading this site but now I registered so I can ask a question. Regarding the Indo-Australian plate tipping, I guess no one has asked this question yet: How much elevation will the areas affected by this plate tipping such as India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines lose? I think this information is important so we can know which higher areas people can go to when the process starts. [and from another] I would like to ask how much of the Philippines, particularly Manila will be affected when 7 of 10 happens? Will there be lots of lives lost? Can you provide more details regarding this?

We have spoken previously of the areas to be affected by the bending of the tongue holding Indonesia, but can now give more specifics. Draw a line from the city of Hangzhou directly east, and consider this horizontal line the point of bend. This does not mean that points north can rest easy, as when the tongue bends down water from various sides will rush in to fill the void, and these waters will have a rebound in the form of tsunami which can race northward at a height of 20-30 feet. The southern coast of China was likewise warned that they could experience loss of elevation. How much will their coastline drop, that they needed this warning from the Hangzhou UFO? This coastline, in general, can anticipate losing 20 feet in elevation, which will likewise afflict Taiwan though Taiwan is high land and will not be as devastated.

Thought the tipping of the Philippine Plate at first gives the islands of the Philippines some relief, as the subduction of the plate is pushing under them, as the bending of the tongue holding Indonesia progresses, they too find an astonishing loss of sea level. However, other than some small islands and the direct coastline, little of the Philippines will be affected by this rise in sea level, and safety can be gained if the coastal residents head for the hills at the first sign of sinking. Tsunami will affect the Philippines, to a potential height of 40 feet, so a prompt evacuation to be at least 20 miles inland is necessary. If the coast of southern China will lose 20 feet in elevation, the Philippines will ultimately lose twice that much, to a total loss of 40 feet in elevation. Due to the tilting of the Indo-Australia Plate, Bangladesh gains temporary relief from the steady sinking it has experienced the past few years. And the tsunami likely to race northward will not come their way because the waters from the Bay of Bengal will be rushing into the South China Sea, and there clashing to push north. If the loss of 40 feet in elevation is not devastating to the Philippines, it is to the coastline of southern Burma, Tailand, and Cambodia, which have vast areas that will suddenly and permanently be flooded.

It is the southern tip of the tongue which is utterly devastated. Draw a line just north of the Malaysia border and over the top of Borneo. The land on the tongue from this point south will double its elevation loss, so that Java and the islands bordering the Banda Sea will find they have lost a full 80 feet in elevation, sinking many coastal cities and small islands out of sight. Singapore will be awash, its streets hopelessly inundated. Vast areas of the northern coastline of Sumatra and the southern coastline of Borneo will likewise be inundated. And if having the sea rush in were not horrific enough, the sudden drop in elevation will bring with it water from the Indian Ocean and the Philippine Sea which will create turmoil, unpredictable waves that clash and boil. There is no predictor indicating that the bend and drop are about to happen that we could point to. There are, as we mentioned there would be, indicators of the direction that the plates are being pushed, as Jakarta has been sinking, Pakistan sinking, and the Coral Sea floor rising. We are telling you your coastlines are not safe, and the rest is up to you!

My question is about the 7 0f 10 . Zetas have said for many times that the 7 0f10 will happen at the end of 2010, many people are eagerly waiting and paying attention to it to find out whether it will actually happen or not at that time. If it does happens, they will totally believe that Zeta's the prediction is accurate, and take it as a basis for their poleshift plans . I know that although many Chinese people who care about 2012 have read ZetaTalk and Zeta's comments about the future events which have been translated into Chinese. But they are still very skeptic about it, and some of them don't believe it at all, because until now the major events that Zetas have predicted don't happen yet (ig, the 7 of 10). I want to ask Zetas if 7 of 10 is sure to happen at the end of 2010 or it is just another "white lie"? If so, I think many people would stay away from the ZetaTalk rather than get closer to it.

If you are nervous, imagine how Nancy feels! She was there during the 2003 white lie, when Planet X so clearly came inbound as we said it would, right on track according to our coordinates and arriving in the evening sky just where we said it would some 7 years earlier. But it did not pass, as the word "passage" implies, nor did the pole shift happen "shortly after May 15, 2003". We did this deliberately to fool the Bush administration, which had stolen the White House in order declare martial law in the US, to negate all future elections there, to plant the US military in the oil rich Middle East and thus own black gold in the Aftertime. None of this happened, in great part due to our white lie which caused Bush to accelerate his agenda and thus stumble. But what would be the advantage of a failure on the 7 of 10 prediction? As you so amply point out, this would devastate those following and putting faith in the ZetaTalk predictions. There would be no gain. Follow what is going on in Asia, to see evidence of the drama soon to occur.

Can the Zs comment as to the effect of womans menstration problems, leading up to the shift? When a spike in Blood Pressure happened I was tested for fibroid tumors, as they run into the family, and I have been experiencing very heavy bleeding during last months period. They found everything to be healthy, no fibroids and thickness, healthy. I am now on hormones for the past month and a half to make the bleeding bearable, so that I may still function in society. I am also wondering on this subject matter, as I am thinking that more woman are going through it, but are not trying to discuss it. Is this partially in answer to why our society, and men for that matter, make this subject matter so difficult to bring out into the open and talk about?

It is of record that women went barren in Egypt prior to the Jewish Exodus, during a time when men and women alike were clearly under stress as the last weeks were at hand. It is no secret that the reproductive cycle is tied to the state of the mother and father. This extends from conception down to full term delivery. A woman who does not feel secure will likely not conceive, and men can lower their sperm production in a like manner if they are reluctant to become a father. A woman whose nutrition is at risk will either not conceive or will abort. Female athletes, thin from all the exercise, are deemed by nature to be struggling with a time of impending starvation and nature protects the mother by refusing a pregnancy. A great psychological shock can bring on a spontaneous abortion. The women in a household or close circle will find their periods starting to come at the same time, an adjustment throughout the group so that all might conceive and all might deliver at the same time. Thus, a woman with child will not find she is dropping the babe, alone, while the rest of the troop wanders off, and thus will be better protected with company.

All that said, why would the roiling core of the Earth, the magnetic swings, and elements in the tail of Planet X be playing havoc with the menstrual cycle of so many women? It was noted in late 2007 that a sudden dizziness in men and women alike and frequent heavy periods in the women was occurring, mysteriously, around the world. Of course heavy bleeding throughout the month can be a sign of fibroid tumors, but when these are not present, it is hormone related. The body is rejecting any pregnancy that might have established, even when the pregnancy is not there! This is like a sneeze, which can occur spontaneously when no dust or germs are present to be ejected. The nervous state decides a sneeze is in order! This heavy and/or frequent bleeding will pass, in time, after the pole shift, to become only a memory.

What is to be expected when disaster comes for the elderly who have health issues, for example: Diabetes, Heart Disease, Hypertension, etc., etc..? Is this where the STO comes in? How do they prepare for this?

Mankind's expectations are that modern medicine can cure or rescue them from many of the scourges of the past. Those with a sedentary lifestyle, in countries where obesity is on the rise, anticipate they can abuse their health, and overeat, as their heart disease and type 2 diabetes will be corrected by a handful of pills. A diet laden with salt raises the blood pressure but this is controlled with a pill, not a dietary change. Some of this will correct after the pole shift, as starvation can cure type 2 diabetis and clear out the arteries, and salt will be in short supply. That is, if the chubby survivor lasts long enough for the cure to take effect. Of course, there are many diseases that were fatal in the past which will not be cured by a more active lifestyle. Not all blood pressure illness is due to salt, and some heart disease is hereditary, not due to diet. The sudden loss of medical treatment will doom those with transplants, who take immune system suppressants to counter the bodies urge to reject the transplant. This is likewise true of those with autoimmune diseases, who will likely find their scourge returning with a fury. Those with type 1 diabetes will quickly die. The loss of antibiotics will mean that infections formerly treated by modern medicine will result in a quick death - pneumonia, and infections going septic. These also are not lingering deaths, for the small comfort this brings, but result in coma before death.

Kim Jong il's son will be taking over soon in North Korea. He is reportedly in his late 20s. Will he keep North Korea the most isolated country in the world? Or can we expect any changes that benefit the people of North Korea, like when Castro passed his power to his successor? Or will he just be a figure head without any real power?

As we have pointed out, dictatorships are seldom run by the dictator, and many behind the scenes benefit from what looks like an iron hand. Kim has not run the country for many years, if he ever truly did, and his weak son is hardly going to step into that role. Thus, anticipate no change from this transfer of supposed leadership. Matters will go on as before.

My question has to do with recently discovered hieroglyphs on the eastern coast of the US using Google Earth. The link for those interested is http://www.ancientcanalbuilders.com/symbols/symbols4.html Here is one photo of part of the coast of NJ from that website. Are these Annunaki hieroglyphs to be seen from the air? What do they mean, and why here? How old are they? It would seem Atlantean times would be a good guess and imagine the manpower and time spent doing it. I think this is absolute proof of ETs on Earth, as if you have ever been in salt marshes, the idea of using that as a canvas for a message is mind boggling. But oh so interesting. Any comments?

As with the Nazca, Peru hieroglyphs, these designs in New Jersey were meant to be seen from the sky. The hieroglyphs in Peru are high desert and thus survived, while New Jersey has steadily lost elevation during past pole shifts. If the waters of the world were to recede, there would be many more such sites with hieroglyphs emerging. Their purpose was to guide the rocket ships that shuttled between Earth and the Annunaki home planet, Nibiru. The Annunaki would unload the gold that had been collected on Earth, refresh or replace the mining crews on Earth and load them up with supplies, and then wait on their home planet for the passage. All this had to be done ahead of the passage, as the outbound Nibiru (aka Planet X) takes off quickly after the actual passage, and the last weeks create too much turmoil for a shuttle to be in transit. Then the pole shift, and Earth's geography would be altered, and then the long period before they would return again to collect more gold. There was no time to draw new maps. The various places on Earth, with their various hieroglyphs, would aid the returning shuttles next time around to understand what part of the globe they were flying over.

Oct 13 New York - A dozen shiny objects hovering over Chelsea this afternoon sparked speculations of UFOs on the West Side. Ominously, yesterday there was supposed to be "a massive UFO display over the world's principal cities," according to "Challenges of Change," a book on extraterrestrials written by Retired NORAD Air Force Officer Stanley A. Fulham. Callers began phoning the NYPD and Federal Aviation Administration around 1:30 p.m. with reports of strange, silver objects flying high in the sky over Manhattan, authorities said. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/13/2010-10-13 [and from another] UFO Sightings in New York As Crowds of People Stare Into The Sky. Confirmed by Multiple News Networks [Oct 13] http://theintelhub.com/2010/10/13/new-york-ufo-sighting/ We normally wouldn't cover a set of UFO sightings but seeing as a retired NORAD officer claimed that their would be an alien invasion today this seemed very important to document. Today reports of UFO activity over New York City went ultra viral. Twitter erupted with reports of numerous unknown objects in the sky. This story has gone so viral that ABC and The New York Daily News are now reporting on it. We should remain skeptical as to the origins of this sighting until proof is put forward. Remember the retired NORAD general who predicted a UFO visit on October 13, 2010? [and from another] Can the Zetas please explain the worldwide UFO displays in many major cities on October 13, 2010? http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ufosummary-of-all-the [and from another] October 13th UFO Prediction - Worldwide UFO Display On October 13, 2010 : NORAD Officer http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/10/prediction-2010-ufo-display-october-13.html According to newly-published book "Challenges of Change" by a retired Air Force officer, Stanley A. Fulham, tentatively predicts October 13, 2010 as the date for a massive UFO display over the world's principal cities. According to the author, the aliens will neither land nor communicate on that date; they are aware from eons of experience with other planets in similar conditions their sudden intervention would cause fear and panic.

This past year, just in the most recent months in fact, there have been mass sightings of triangular UFOs over Moscow, China, Taiwan, and West Yorkshire. There have been duet UFO displays over Victoria and Minneapolis, and duet displays over Guadalajara and Brandenburg. There have been displays sending warnings to Vladivostok, Uruguay, and a monstrous mothership seen over Hangzhou which could be seen several provinces away and closed down air traffic in the Hangzhou air field. All of this captured dramatically on video, available on the Internet, and documented by Nancy in her newsletters and in the weekly chats. By comparison, and dancing light in the skies on October 13, 2010 in New York City or San Francisco is trivial. Trivial! So why the excitement and news coverage? Because man likes to think he is in control, and can call down a ship on command. He cannot.

Despite the arrogance of a retired NORAD officer, Stanley Fulham, making a prediction of a "massive UFO display over the world's principal cities", nothing of the sort happened. Did Paris and London and Rio and Hong Kong and Beijing have any sightings? Are 3 tiny dancing lights in NYC a "massive UFO display"? If man cannot call down ships, then why did any UFOs show up at all? Because this puny display slammed into the news, and had all manner of heads turned to peer at the skies! Unlike the coverage given legitimate mass sightings, which get squelched in the news, this broke into the news.
Disclosure=1, Cover-up=0.
Does this prove that retired NORAD officers are in the know, and in contact, and can control UFO displays?
Aliens=1, NORAD=0.
The visitors control when and how they will create displays, which will be on the increase greatly in the months ahead. In comparison, and as it will be in memory, October 13, 2010 is a fizzle.

As zetas stated before that when we reach 7 of 10, western India wil sink, now you are saying that "India is not where the action is during the 7 of 10." Please explain. [and from another] The Indo-Australian plate currently is pressing against the Himalaya's which is affecting Pakistan (lowering and sinking). If the 7 of 10 is NOT going to be affecting India directly, there must be a reason since the Indo-Australian Plate is long and goes across the equator up to the Himalaya's as one piece. Will the Indo-Australian Plate break into two parts before or after the 7? Will pressure on the Indonesian area next to the Indo-Australian Plate (set to start sinking during the 7) increase the speed of Indonesia sinking if the Indo-Australian Plate breaks into two pieces - to form the Indian Plate and the Australian Plate? [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Australian_Plate Recent studies suggest that the Indo-Australian Plate may be in the process of breaking up into two separate plates due primarily to stresses induced by the collision of the Indo-Australian Plate with Eurasia along the Himalayas. The two protoplates or subplates are generally referred to as the Indian Plate and the Australian Plate."

Though the Indo-Australian Plate is sometimes referred to as two separate plates, this plate operates as one and will continue to do so. Where Indonesia at the southern edge will lose approximately 80 feet in elevation, the curve of the Indo-Australian Plate nestling this southern edge of the tongue will not gain that much in elevation. Bangladesh will find some of its recently submerged islands suddenly reappearing, and the tides will not roll inland as far as formerly. Overall, perhaps a 15 foot gain in elevation, though this is short term as the continent of India will continue to submerge as time marches on toward the pole shift. What occurs in the pushing down of the tongue holding Indonesia is a drama occurring under the water, in the main. One can see from elevation or relief maps that the submerged land to the south of Sumatra and Java are not under deep, but under relatively shallow water. We have described Sumatra and Java as land formed by the scraping of the tongue holding Indonesia, and pushed back along the tongue holding Indonesia by the edge of the Indo-Australian Plate. This will again occur, but as the tongue overall is pushed down, the scrapings will not produce new mountain ranges above the waves but only jumble under the waves. The western edge of India, where the Indus River region in Pakistan is sinking, will likewise not experience that much loss of elevation, commensurate with the eastern edge of India, perhaps a 10 foot drop. What is occurring in India is not where the 7 of 10 action will be focused, at least not in the public eye.

Is Earth's air atmosphere (clouds and wind patterns, particles in the sky) affected by the magnetosphere shifting and changing around? Are people affected in any way (dizziness, mild nerve agitations, drowsiness)? Are charged magnetic particles from PX tail adding to the intensity? What is the result of this magnetic change as far as the atmosphere goes? [and from another] http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/magnetosphere-sws-images-stuck I've had odd events suggesting power surging: like light bulbs popping out of their fitting, refrigerator going very cold when setting not altered, unusual flickers on TV, TV turning off into standby, plus physical effects like unusual enduring headaches which may be related and finding it very hard to wake in the morning. [and from another] I cannot tell you how many times when I go out driving I get behind people just sitting at green lights. Literally just sit there. Pay attention to how many tail-lights and headlights you see on other cars that are out. [and from another] When the Earth is doing weird movements, and the magnetosphere is unusual it seems I get distracted easily and forget what I was doing. Wonder what the magnetosphere does to the neurons in the brain? I seem to hear the things going on in the atmosphere and felt compelled to look at the magnetosphere to see what was the problem. Dizzy feeling I guess. [and from another] Two of my appliances began to make loud noises, as if something changed in their machinery. Mine happened after the 12 hour magnetosphere reporting blackout.

Electromagnetic swings do affect human and animal life as well as mankind's electronics. Electromagnetic surge is anticipated, as it has been going on since Planet X arrived in the inner solar system in 2003. The vast tail of Planet X wafted past the Sun in 2003 to waft past Earth, and thus all the blackouts on Earth in August-September of 2003. Now the tail is again pointing toward Earth, being blown outbound from the magnetic N Pole of Planet X. Small appliances as well as the electric grid can be affected, light bulbs blown, and static electricity creating odd lightning displays. What effects can be expected? As when this subject came up in early 2007, a dizzy or off-balance feeling can occur. The human nervous system is chemical-electrical in nature, so surges can occur, uneven surges, thus the off-balance sensation when two ears are involved. Irritability is certainly another symptom, as the nerves are "charged", as though the person had drunk far too much coffee or taken some kind of drug that overloads the nervous system. Such charging can prove a distraction also, as the brain is focused on too many issues all at once. Then all the hormones that stay clued to the human animal get involved. Is the creature under stress? Don't allow a pregnancy to develop. Suppress the sex drive. Pack away food stuffs into fat, just in case.

I have one little question about problems with the closure of nuclear stations in Germany. The first time government Angela Mercel promised to close them at the end 2010, but now they decided to close in 2016! If the government know that a not long time to the PS, why they do it? Why the government of Germany suddenly changes the decision despite protests from the people? They must understand how dangerous it is. [and from another] http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6693854-germanys-merkel-sets-stage-for-nuclear-battle Opposition parties and environmentalists have vowed to fight the planned extension in the lifetime of Germany's 17 nuclear reactors for an average of 12 years beyond the scheduled shutdown of around 2020. But calculations in the German media indicate that the last plant will not be switched off until 2040, and critics say that operators may get away with keeping some running for even longer than that. Nuclear power currently generates nearly one quarter of Germany's power, while renewables produce around 15 percent. The remainder comes from fossil fuels like coal. Volatile oil prices in recent years and the desire to reduce carbon emissions, produced by fossil fuels and blamed for climate change, have resulted in something of a renaissance of nuclear power around the world. Opponents have accused Merkel, a former environment minister, of being pressured into the decision by the lobbying of energy companies, which will reap billions of euros (dollars) in extra profits from an extension.

The world is stuffling with a second Great Depression, but not calling it that. Terms like "recession" are tossed about, to disguise the reality. In 2008 the housing bubble in the US crashed and the false optimism being projected by the Bush administration was exposed for the lie it was. Still is the official claim is that a recession is in process, then governments make promises to the people in accordance with the impact expected during a recession. Now these promises are coming due. If the money is not there, the promises cannot be kept.

Reading Z's answers to Oct 9 chat, made me think. Quoting: The sequence of events is, thus:
1. a tipping Indo-Australia Plate with Indonesia sinking,
2. a folding Pacific allowing S America to roll,
3. a tearing of the south Atlantic Rift allowing Africa to roll and the floor of the Mediterranean to drop,
4. great quakes in Japan followed by the New Madrid adjustment,
5. which is followed almost instantly by the tearing of the north Atlantic Rift with consequent European tsunami.
If so, the drop of Mediterranean floor (3.) will probably trigger a tsunami in Mediterranean as well. If so, Europe will actually experience two tsunamis: first sloshing East Spain, South France and West Italy (and Africa) and second (the one Z's probably refer to as European tsunami) sloshing West Spain and Portugal, West France, UK, Ireland, Benelux and northern Europe states. Is that correct?
Also, European plate goes into African at Crete, so rolling of Africa will likely affect the Greek islands, too. Can we expect major quakes there and Santorini to abruptly erupt, or is this "scheduled" for later stages? How far can pushing of Greece go, will it also cause Balkans to slide under Italy at this stage and Italian vulcanos to erupt?
The Z's also hinted at "Middle East inferno" a while ago. With some underground fires featured in last week's newsletter, I guess, they are not far either. Where do that inferno fit in? I'd say it follows rolling of Africa in step 3., which makes room for middle east adjustments? On the other hand, tipping of Indo-Australian Plate in step 1. gives some room for middle east adjustments, too?

The fact that the African Plate, during previous rolls, created mountain building can be seen on a relief map. Morocco and Algeria have mountains due to the rolling in the past. One can see in the mountains of Spain and Italy and the Balcans and Turkey that this was the case there, too, in the past. The Alps themselves were built during previous African rolls. But this time the African Plate will drop away significantly, slipping to the south during the roll. This movement is possible because as the South Atlantic Rift tears open, there is room for the tip of Africa to slid into that void, thus dropping the entire African Plate as it rolls. The African Plate not only moves to the south during this process, it also further to the west, although the southern portion of Africa moves more in this direction more than the parts abutting the Mediterranean.

That said, why would the floor of the Mediterranean just above Algeria be more vulnerable than other areas during this roll? The border of the African Plate slices across northern Algeria, and thus when the plate rolls and drops, the Mediterranean floor there will suddenly find itself unsupported. Where the land mass housing Morocco and Algeria will not lose elevation, in the main, retaining its floatation strength to ride on the magma beneath, the floor of the Mediterranean is of a different composition. It will sink there, unsupported on the African side where the plates will pull apart. The Mediterranean coastline of Algeria will then find more than tsunami worries as they will have a loss of elevation by 12 feet or more. Their coastline is not part of the African Plate. What sinks and what continues to float on the magma beneath is a factor of the rock density, and the floor of the Mediterranean above Algeria has only been floating as it has due to the connection with the African Plate. Elsewhere, where the Mediterranean floor spreads during the roll, the floor is either too deep for a change to be noticed or at a distance from the plate border.

Tsunami will not occur to any ostensible degree because there is a void being created, where the waters will rush. However, turmoil and wave action can be anticipated. The shifting of the African Plate will also not incite any mountain building in Italy or the Balcans or Turkey, as the northern edge of the African Plate is not the solid, jutting line through the center of the Mediterranean that mankind assumes. The sea is deep there, to the south of Italy and the Balcans and Greece, and for good reason. This part of the great plates has fractured in the past, so that many fault lines lie under the surface, unknown to man until dramatic plate movements begin. The roll of the African Plate during the 7 of 10 scenarios thus spares all but the Mediterranean floor above Algeria! The roll will incite the Arabian Plate to roll also, to some degree, as across from Egypt there will be pressure, but further down the Red Sea there will be a tearing apart, inviting the Arabian Plate to migrate in this direction. However, this is not the disaster we have predicted for Iraq, not yet. Nor will the Afar Triangle, the African Rift Valley, experience changes all that dramatic during this roll.

Regarding plastic garbage, especially the small and large wraps. During pole shift, they could be destroyed by lava and other natural chemicals. But how do human beings have to deal with them during Aftertime as we have huge problems with plastic garbage, considering that survival preparations involve plastic bags, products, and wraps (If I can, I don't want to use plastic wraps, except perhaps for the large ones for protection things.). [and from another] Regular plastic decays in the presence of ultraviolet light like sunlight. Other than UV light, the only thing that helps break down some plastics is oxygen, so buried it gets neither UV light or air. The most toxic plastics have cyanide in them or are used to make fiberglass. The resin is made of styrene and methyl ethyl ketone chloride, very toxic and should never be burned. It too will fall apart into little pieces and go back to dust, albeit longer in the future than plastic wrap.

Earthquakes will rupture land fills, and the torrential rains will wash away any top soil. As plastic exposed to the air will decompose, land fills will eventually only contain metals and compost. As such they might be a source of metal for survivors struggling to smelt hand and garden tools. Such digging around for metal will in fact accelerate the process of decay for plastics, as survivors will find containers handy, and clear plastic ideal as water bottles. Plastic bottles can even be used as floatation devices for emergency houseboats during the steady encroachment of flood tides in the months after the pole shift. Within the 100 year period before the leap to 4th density, all of man's plastic garbage will have ceased to exist in other than the memory of man.

At 4:00 on October 13 Qinling event - it is reported that at four o'clock today, a village in the Qinling mountain inexplicably disappeared. Now the military has cordoned off the area. According to the eyewitnesses, a UFO was flying around. The snakes in Qinling Mountains have fled away, and there were also insiders who said that this was a nuclear accident in the nuclear base in the Qinling Mountains.
[and from another] Sohu News: on October 13, a news about " a village in the Qinling Mountains disappeared overnight" is passing crazily on the network, especially in the micro-Blogs . After many investigation, the journalists have confirmed that it's totally a rumor spreading on the internet. "There are a large number of troops sealing off the scene." The Reporters today (13) asked respectively Shaanxi Provincial Public Security Bureau, Shaanxi Military District, and Hanzhong, Ankang, Baoji, Xi'an, Shangluo cities which surround the Qinling Mountains for confirmation, but the concerned parties answered that they did not receive any relevant reports, and indicated that the news should belong to the rumors on network. The reporter from Xianyang saw two circular and luminous bodies rotating in the sky constantly as soon as he got into dowtown area of Xianyang. This is from Xianyang citizens : "it seems that these bodies have been there since over eight o'clock at night, which are crisscrossing the sky. Nearly two hours have passed until ten o'clock in that evening, there are still many people standing outside watching them, and everyone said that they had never seen such a phenomenon." A Xianyang citizen:" I thought it was a light shooting back and forth." Although lots of people have such a speculation, they can not find the the lamp posts and the light source. With all these doubts in heart, the journalists started driving in urban areas, trying to find the source of light, At last reporter found the answer in Thai Square near Xianyang City Bank .Half past ten or so, the spotlight in the square went off and the unknown luminous bodies disappeared, it seemed that it was only a false alarm. It is likely that the unknown luminous bodies have been explained for the right reason , but this phenomenon happened not only in the city of Xianyang. Today a lot of troops headed for our county from Xianyang highway .The High-speed roads have been closed. [and from another] China's response: According to some Chinese sources the whole thing was done by some Drunk Teens and has gone stupidly crazy all over the web. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsovOIUmJTU There is a blog also below the youtube video.

Note the date of the supposed event - October 13, 2010. This was a spoof, where the locals hoped to be included in worldwide hysteria over the supposed mass sightings of UFOs over all the world's principal cities. The October 13, 2010 event did not happen, but if it happened the local residents hoped to put Qinling Mountain on the map! This is equivalent to teens calling in a false fire alarm at school to see all the action. The UFOs turned out to be spot lights shown on the sky. Just what village is supposed to have disappeared is never established, nor any proof of a former existence. A few phone calls and claims made, and boom, everyone in the world is talking about it. Just what the kids wanted.

Can the Zetas comment on Clif High's webpage (halfpasthuman.com) and the strange shutdown? Is it in any part related to the bot hit for November 8-12th? [and from another] http://www.halfpasthuman.com We're baaaaack! Ok, so not all the way, but as of today, October 14, 2010, the new halfpasthuman server site has a page. Unfortunately for y'all, it is this page. Damn. Nothing here! But soon we will rebuild all the whozeewhatizits and such. So, if you care, check back in a small time, perhaps something will have changed. Ooohhh playing with universe. It is only when we remember that we are individually quite mad that universe makes any damn sense at all. Ain't pi peachy? [and from another] http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread619470/pg#pid9728510 Tuesday October 12, 2010 Clif's Website Taken Down Clif's website www.halfpasthuman.com has been taken offline by his internet provider, although there is no known financial reason for this to have occurred. Clif has been stonewalled by the ISP as to reason for the site doing down. His next anticipated release was scheduled for this weekend, but at this point in time, it is unclear whether it will be able to be posted because of the ISP issues.

The blame for downtime on the HPH website is that some kind of misunderstanding or malfunction with the ISP occurred. Bills paid, public interest, HPH planning to continue and poof, the website is offline! Perhaps the accountant failed to register payment. Perhaps someone at the ISP secretly plotted to bring them down or embarrass them. Since such an occurrence is extremely rare, in fact literally unheard of in today's Internet world, no one is actually buying this excuse. What happened? HPH prides itself on relaying the future with enough accuracy that its clientele continue to pay generously for the reports. But they have deliberately stayed away from any predictions on the crustal shift which is in mankind's future. In fact, they have gone out of their way to cast aspersions on ourself, as aliens who could not be trusted.

Meanwhile, all our predictions keep coming true! There stands Planet X next to the Sun, displayed on SOHO images almost daily. The plates are starting to move in accordance with predictions we gave to the public almost a year ago, when such plate movement was not in evidence. What will become of HPH when the Zetas strike it big, and there is no question that our predictions, provided to the public for free, were accurate but they, HPH, missed entirely? Why is HPH staying away from what is obviously on the public's mind? It is not that they cannot pick this up in their pattern analysis of word frequency and association. They discard this information on purpose, and ascribe any public anxiety to other causes. They are leaned on, and told that support of the ZetaTalk message, in any manner, is not to occur. If a lack of compliance with these orders are sensed, a warning is sent. This was a warning!

In a hollywood movie made in 1984, same year they discovered planet x, movie called 2010, they say there will be contact made plus a second sun will appear, are these the elite giving hints about roswell and planet x? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lPO7fQ0Zdw [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_%28film%29 2010 (also known as 2010: The Year We Make Contact) is a 1984 American science fiction film written and directed by Peter Hyams. It is a sequel to the 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, and is based on Arthur C. Clarke's novel 2010: Odyssey Two, a literary sequel to the film. … The Monoliths engulf Jupiter and increase its density to the point that nuclear fusion occurs, transforming the planet into a small star.

There is no relationship of the 2001: A Space Odyssey and the 2010: Odyssey Two films to the current drama involving Planet X and a crustal shift. The second sun seen in the sky from Earth is Jupiter, in the film, having been modified to ignite. Beyond the issue of two suns, there is no similarity.