ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for June 22, 2013

This is a channeled work from a woman, whom the Zetas confirmed had the right notion about the humming boxes when they first appeared in Oregon. http://www.zetatalk.com/7of10/7of10108.htm She has taken great umbrage at the concept of a sudden Pole Shift, as the Zetas say within an hour, and gone so far as to state that anyone saying this is a “malevolent” force. Yet she was warned privately to get an RV and be prepared to leave the coast on a moment’s notice. There has been an alignment of agreement until now. Why the sudden difference of opinion and insults? I feel Nancy should address the ET intercession with Pole Shift itself by re-examining the issue. [Begin Channel, in part] Why would we wish for you to go thru this destruction and end life and civilizations where you have all then accumulated your greatest potential for advancement in your Sciences and Technologies, Understanding of the Cosmos and moving for Spiritual Growth and Unity. Would we not protect you from self-destruction or from an outside Cosmic threat or Nuclear Wars, when you are so valuable to us as a Human Species, as an accumulation of all your past Life's, as an accumulation of all your past Wars, as an accumulation of all your past Enlightenment and the age of darkness. We have always guided the Human Race from the beginning of time to the present moment, and would "not" allow this destruction that is being brought about and manifested by the collective minds guided by malevolent Luciferian Forces to "Destroy You" and to destroy this planet. But this (Planet-X/Nibiru) has been cleared.  It has been placed outside of its own "Orbit" further from your Earth. We say that it is a possibility of a "Pole Shift" but "Not" in this manner in which they wish the Human minds to manifest it to be. There is a possibility of this Mind Pole Shift, caused by an exchange of Nuclear Weapons throughout your world. If they are not prevented there would be a chain effect that would then unbalance the rotation of your Earth. But what is being spoken of is a "Sudden Pole Shift", the "Sudden" Pole Shift can only be thru the destruction and use of your weapons.

There are some similarities in this channeled work by a valid Pleiadean channel and what ZetaTalk has stated. There are also points where we differ, and differ greatly. For instance, we have stated that nuclear weapons have long been disabled so they are no longer weapons, though if challenged by the need to retain the Element of Doubt would be allowed to explode. This has been in the body of ZetaTalk for years. This intercession is because the Council of Worlds has responded to the collective Call from many people. Since nuclear war is not possible, in this situation, our predictions differ from this Pleiadean channel.

It is likewise true that the rapid progression of the 7 of 10 plate movements was slowed to a crawl, because the Council of Worlds saw the potential for a break in the cover-up, and did not wish massive death from 7 of 10 plate movements when the populace had no opportunity to have a spiritual lesson, no opportunity to react. Slowing the plate movement required more than the humming boxes placed along fault lines. Planet X was positioned more to the side, to the right of the Earth, than it should be during the 7 of 10 process, as noted recently in our ZetaTalk chats. This is why there is a more severe wobble at this time, yet slower plate movement.

It has long been known that all in the Service-to-Other do not agree on how mankind should be influenced at this time. The Pleiadeans are notorious for downplaying the coming Pole Shift, preferring to deliver a message of denial so as not to elicit anxiety and fear. Our approach has been to tell the blunt truth, so mankind will not be shocked but can prepare to assist others in love throughout the cataclysms, being emotionally prepared.  Both we and they are Service-to-Others, but differ in our approach. Where the Pleiadeans prefer to emphasize rescue, we prefer to emphasize that mankind is to rise to the occasion, growing spiritually by helping others.

The Pleiadeans know that Obama and his allies around the world are prepared to inform mankind that Nibiru, aka Planet X, does indeed exist and is positioned for a passage past Earth. It is ZetaTalk, ourselves, and our message that will get the attention due to our 17 years of accurate predictions and worldwide fame. It is clear which Service-to-Other group will get to influence mankind, and the losers are resentful, calling our warnings “malevolent” as they feel a blunt message will increase fear and a lean toward Service-to-Self thoughts. In this channeled report, the Pleiadeans are promising rescue to all when this has not been granted by the Council of Worlds.

The Pole Shift has never been, and will not be a tea party as the Pleiadeans promise. For mankind, the future times are not going to be comfortable, but bad tidings to be dealt with. For mankind, the loving thing to do is prepare for the coming Earth changes and react to the distress of others, assisting them. In our view, it is not a proper act for the Pleiadeans to reassure mankind that no harm will come to them, when clearly man has always dealt with volcanoes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami, and giant predators. For mankind, any intervention by benign alien forces will be as a reaction to their own Service-to-Other endeavors and thoughts. Rescue must be earned, not assumed.

It was announced today that Hasan Rowhani was elected President of Iran, replacing Ahmadinejad.  Apparently he won with just a fraction above 50% needed which again seems to point to meddling by outside forces, possibly the West.  Would the Zetas care to comment on what this means for the Iranian people and the government’s actions to the pending announcement and pole shift?  It was stated that Ahmadinejad was Service to Other.  Is this new president STO as well?  Even though war will not break out between the west and Iran, how will this effect geopolitics going into the unstable 8/10's? [and from another] http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/15/18975637-moderate-cleric-hasan-rowhani-elected-president-of-iran-interior-ministry-says?lite Rowhani won with a fraction over the 50 percent of the vote needed to win outright on the first poll. Voter turnout was recorded at 72.7 percent. Rowhani was the closest thing to a reform candidate in the election to replace Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after Mohammad Reza Aref dropped out of the race. A former nuclear negotiator, it is not considered likely that Rowhani will bring about any major policy shift regarding the country’s disputed nuclear program. The Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameini is responsible for all major national security policy decisions in the country. [and from another] http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/14/18964359-rohani-tops-early-iran-election-results-interior-ministry-says?lite Rohani's nearest rival was conservative Tehran Mayor Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a long way behind with 17.33 percent. Other hardline candidates scored even lower.

Rowhani was the clear winner with just over 50% as there were more than two candidates in the election. Hardliners lost, the conciliatory moderate won. This reflects the will of the people, who have matured as a democracy, though Iran’s religious leader, Ayatollah Khameini, can still dictate policy. No change is expected in Iran’s nuclear policy, but the interfaces with other countries will likely be more successful due to cleverly arranged compromise, a skill Rowhani possesses. Iran has been caught in posturing battles with Israel and the west, caught supplying arms to rebels in Iraq and Syria, and seen as a hard nose on all such issues. Hard times are coming due to the Earth changes. Mankind will need to assist, not battle with each other.

Is there an agenda for the Obama “vacation” to Africa next week, other than the family vacation publicized? [and from another] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/obama-africa-trip_n_3441510.html When the first family departs on June 26 for a weeklong visit to the continent that will bring them to Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania, they'll kick into motion an expansive security procedure that is typical for any presidential travel. The president is expected to spend time re-affirming partnerships with the sub-Saharan powers and emphasizing the importance of global health programs, including HIV/AIDS prevention. [and from another] http://stopmakingsense.org/2013/06/14/major-resources-needed-for-obama-africa-trip-washington-post/ When President Obama goes to sub-Saharan Africa this month, the federal agencies charged with keeping him safe won’t be taking any chances. Hundreds of U.S. Secret Service agents will be dispatched to secure facilities in Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania. A Navy aircraft carrier or amphibious ship, with a fully staffed medical trauma center, will be stationed offshore in case of an emergency.  [and from another] http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-05-23-barack-obama-coming-to-africa-a-trip-alive-with-possibilities#.Ub2O0Zz3PMs Obama had told his audience, “I will focus on four areas that are critical to the future of Africa and the entire developing world: democracy; opportunity; health; and the peaceful resolution of conflict.”

Obama’s trip to Africa seems on the surface to be more of a good will gesture than a trip with a purpose. The US has no ongoing struggle with African countries. There was contention when the Arab Spring was spreading like wildfire across North Africa, but these rebellions have been long settled into struggling democracies. Nor is Africa directly involved in the turmoil in Syria or conflicts with Israel. Matters such as the struggle against the spread of AIDs and mutual opportunities for economic development are ongoing, and do not require diplomacy. What then is the true agenda?

Beyond the need to have many countries lined up and included in the coalition of countries that will simultaneously make the announcement on the near presence of Planet X, aka Nibiru, is the issue of Africa as a magnet for so many peoples that will be flooded when the wobble worsens and plate movements accelerate. France will export its people to Libya but other European countries will press for land ownership and VISA rights in former colonial holdings. India will swell its immigrant population in and near Tanzania. Russia is seeking alliances with the Muslim dominated countries along the Red Sea, based on religious sympathies. And South Africa will be the plumb the wealthy will seek to dominate.

We have repeatedly stated that Obama has warned countries in Indonesia and Central America that they cannot expect to immigrate to the US when their flooding worsens. Their neighbors must take them in, with Indonesia looking to the high lands of Asia and Central America looking to S America, which has high lands aplenty. Russia, China, Australia, and the US have taken a firm stance on unfettered immigration, with many other countries such as New Zealand and Switzerland following suit. Africa has the land mass, but many regions are undeveloped so lack access to clean water from wells. US aid directed to opening these lands could be arranged, before the flood of migrants arrive.

There have been 2 interesting pages in the Daily Mail in the last week which seem remarkably familiar! The first relates to a previously unknown massive body which shouldn't exist but has been discovered by the Hubble telescope. The interesting thing is that the distance is only 2x the distance of Pluto from the sun (not millions of light years as often cited). The other describes a planet which has two suns and has life forms on this. Would the Zeta's like to comment on these articles and in particular on the publication of such articles so soon after one another in a paper which is not known for it's coverage of scientific topics.  [and from another] June 15, 2013  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342471/The-planet-shouldnt-exist-Hubble-discovers-new-mass-disproves-current-astronomical-thinking.html  [and from another] June 14, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2341769/Star-Wars-style-planets-TWO-SUNS-capable-housing-alien-life-orbit-single-star.html

For the Daily Mail to feature two such articles on virtually the same day shows a sudden awareness in the editorial staff. Planet X does indeed orbit two suns during its long sling orbit, but asserting its existence and reporting the ancient Sumerian texts describing this 3,600 year orbit is not yet kosher. So the article on life-bearing planets orbiting twin suns must suffice. Likewise Hubble discoveries wherein the incident of life-bearing planets is likely to be greater than anticipated. Planets that form in odd places. Planets at a distance from their suns, subject to the cold light of space during their sojourns. If this also sounds like Planet X, aka Nibiru, it is no coincidence. The subject is much on editorial minds these days!

A new study suggests that a new subduction zone forming offshore of Spain. (Lead study author João Duarte, a research fellow at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia). To me, this new discover is related with top part of the African plate shifting to the east. Is this really related with the African plate shifting? http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/7-of-10-african-roll-new-subduction-zone-forming-off-spain-s-coas  [and from another] http://www.livescience.com/37418-subduction-zone-forming-off-spain.html  A budding subduction zone offshore of Spain heralds the start of a new cycle that will one day pull the Atlantic Ocean seafloor into the bowels of the Earth. Detailed online June 6 in the journal Geology, by carefully mapping the underwater faults near Spain and west of Gibraltar, in a zone called the southwest Iberia margin, the team discovered active thrust faults throughout the supposedly passive margin. Thrust faults form when the crust is squeezed, in this case between the Eurasian and African tectonic plates. This shows that the margin is not passive anymore but is now being reactivated. The researchers suspect that the new Iberian subduction zone will get a little help from a tiny, ultra-slow subduction zone beneath the Straits of Gibraltar. The Gibraltar subduction zone is attached to the African plate. Over the next several million years, this conveyer belt may roll out toward the Atlantic and merge with the Iberian zone into an even bigger trench, the study suggests. [and from another] http://www.livescience.com/19656-gibraltar-subduction-zone.html  The ground beneath Portugal, Spain and northern Morocco shook violently on Nov. 1, 1755, during what came to be known as the Great Lisbon Earthquake. With an estimated magnitude of 8.5 to 9.0, the temblor nearly destroyed the city of Lisbon. Geologists are still piecing together the tectonic story behind that powerful earthquake. A unique subduction zone beneath Gibraltar, the southernmost tip of the Iberian Peninsula, now seems to be culprit.

Yes, there is movement in the Straits of Gibraltar, but the reasons these scientists surmise is hardly the cause. It is clear from the pattern of Continental Drift that the African Plate is floating away from the Eurasian Plate. Why would it move in the other direction when the Ring of Fire is compressing and the Atlantic pulling apart! The African Rift Zone is increasing regularly, as current volcanic activity shows. Of course there were great earthquakes along the Mediterranean in the recent past, because the edges of the plates are not smooth so jolting occurs during any adjustments around the African Plate.

Why are these scientists then drumming on the word subduction to explain why the Straits of Gibraltar is likely to expand? Subduction implies being pushed together. We have stressed that many people simply cannot face the trauma that the Earth has suffered in her recent past, every 3,600 years as her geology shows. The concept of crustal shifts is simply too frightening, so they refuse to consider this. Here once again we have scientists behaving illogically. In no way is the widening of Gibraltar, here predicted by these scientists, caused by a subduction. This is illogical, a contradiction.

We have predicted that the Straits of Gibraltar would separate further by 125 miles, during the 7 of 10 plate movement, during the African Roll. Note how the future scenarios drawn by these scientists include one scenario that has the touch points of the Straits of Gibraltar suddenly widening, while the plates above and below remain the same! If the plates do not move, the touch points would also not logically move! Are these scientists reading ZetaTalk? Many do, and point their research toward analyzing our predictions. By mixing their fears with our prediction accuracy, the scientists are showing yet another illogical contradiction.

I am curious if Michael Hastings was assassinated?  He exposed General McChrystal and forced him to retire.  [and from another] Michael Hastings, 'Rolling Stone' Contributor, Dead at 33 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/michael-hastings-rolling-stone-contributor-dead-at-33-20130618#ixzz2WeaQHrYx  Hastings' unvarnished 2010 profile of McChrystal in the pages of Rolling Stone, "The Runaway General," captured the then-supreme commander of the U.S.-led war effort in Afghanistan openly mocking his civilian commanders in the White House. The maelstrom sparked by its publication concluded with President Obama recalling McChrystal to Washington and the general resigning his post. Hastings' hallmark as reporter was his refusal to cozy up to power.  [and from another] http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-hastings-dies-car-crash-20130618,0,7611310.story  Hastings was the victim of a single-car crash that occurred about 4:25 a.m. in the 600 block of North Highland Avenue. The vehicle crossed a median, struck a tree and burst into flames in the Hancock Park area, LAPD Officer Christopher No said. The driver was pronounced dead at the scene. A witness described the accident to KTLA News: “I was just coming northbound on Highland and I seen a car, like, going really fast and all of a sudden I seen it jackknife,”  Luis Cortez said. “I just seen parts fly everywhere, and I slammed on my brakes and stopped and tried to call 911."  [and from another] Why do some cars burst into flames? http://www.accidentreconstruction.com/newsletter/oct06/flames.pdf  Three separate car crashes that caused cars to burst into flames this month have raised the question. Speed is one factor that can cause a fire, because the faster a vehicle is impacted, the more likely it is that the fuel tank is ruptured. Much of the reason for a car fire has to do with where a vehicle is hit during a collision and if the gas tank is near the point of impact. A side impact is more likely to rupture a gas tank than from the front or behind. Newer cars (often) have the gas tank under the rear seat.  [and from another] http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100222652/wikileaks-says-michael-hastings-contacted-it-just-before-his-death-are-they-implying-he-was-murdered/  Michael Hastings contacted WikiLeaks lawyer Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before he died, saying that the FBI was investigating him.

Evidence of murder unfortunately has been lost. Just what caused Hasting’s car to jack sideways and burst into flames is unlikely to ever be proven, definitively, because the car and many of its working parts have been destroyed by fire or shattered by the impact against the tree. But several facts point to murder. Hastings was speeding, as though running from a threat, at an odd hour – 4:25 am. The car suddenly jacked sideways, indicating a mechanical problem that would affect the steering. Else did it hit a pothole in LA? And the car burst into flames, an unusual result in modern cars where the tank is under the rear seat, especially when the car is not hit from the side but from the front. But this is something a bomb could arrange.

Hastings was murdered, an end he frankly expected at some point due to his aggressive investigative reporting. He could not be threatened or bribed, nor would he take subtle hints or modify the truth by omissions to avoid confrontations with those in power. He received a warning, and thus at an odd hour was trying to change locations, fleeing. His car had been tampered with so the car would accelerate and then torque sideways to crash or flip, timed to be accompanied by a bomb that caused his fiery death. What was he working on that his death was arranged at this time? Given his track record, he was unlikely to back away from the inside stories on the cover-up over Nibiru. He was thus silenced before the stories could break.

This week Romania was the preferred destination for spies. First it was Nikolai Patrushev, former FSB chief and currently Secretary of the Security Council of Russia. On Monday he was welcomed by Romanian officials (President and PM). Comes Tuesday and there's a new visitor: the CIA director John Brennan, also greeted by the Romanians. I don't believe in coincidences, so could please the Zetas tell us more about the hidden agenda for these meetings, and why is Romania all of a sudden such a sought-after country?

We addressed the issue of Russian’s interest in having the Ukraine hold back immigrants rushing into Russia when serious flooding starts during the Last Weeks and Aftertime. They want buffers, and are willing to made arrangements with the Ukraine establishment to that end. Romania is a neighbor, and has even more high ground than the Ukraine, so is a secondary buffer in the eyes of the Russian establishment. What is the CIA’s interest in all this? During the Cold War, these countries in eastern Europe were under Russian domination. Brennan wants to ensure there is no creep back in that direction.

I have been reading the Zeta Talk archives and have 2 questions regarding the amount of daylight that will be available post shift in the Aftertimes.  I have not found answers to these questions and feel they are pertinent to all of us who hope to survive the shift.  I am hoping the Zetas will answer my questions.  The Zetas indicate the gloom will be present for about 25 years and that the amount of daylight available initially post-shift will be only what is currently available at dusk.  
Question 1:  Most breeds of chickens require 14 hours of daylight in order to lay eggs.  Will the amount of daylight available post shift in the Aftertimes, be sufficient to stimulate poultry to lay eggs?  What kind of artificial light would the Zetas recommend to boost the number of hours of daylight poultry need to stimulate egg laying?
Question 2:  Vitamin D is an essential vitamin required by our bodies.  Currently, one of our primary sources of receiving Vitamin D is from exposure of our skin to the sun when outdoors.  Will the amount of daylight available be sufficient to generate the levels of Vitamin D needed by our physical bodies?

It is known that sunburn can occur even on cloudy days. Any creature exposed to the Sun in such a manner will not lack Vitamin D. Flocks of chickens allowed outdoors for a period of time during the Winter in cold climates do not suffer from a lack, and the skies are routinely cloudy in Winter in these climes. The issue of triggering chickens to lay eggs, with exposure to 14 hours of daylight, is not due to the intensity of daylight but the length of time. Many creatures time their hormone release to the number of daylight hours, gauging the seasons in this way.