Session Start: Sat Jan 26 15:41:48 2002
(NancyL) OK, the hour is upon us. I will post the Q's and the Z's will respond. Please hold your followup questions until I say End ZT as else I have to dig back for them.
(NancyL) 1. Whose idea the IRC sessions were and why are they held weekly and not twice a week for instance?
(NancyL) ZT: With all of ZetaTalk we jointly decide matters.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy suffers from various health problems, is not a young person, works extraordinarily hard, and is carrying a hugh workload.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we must consider her needs.
(NancyL) ZT: As a team, we were also looking for a time when the world as a whole could participate.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy posted suggestions, and this time was not objected to much, so is currently the time.
(NancyL) ZT: It is possible to have more, other times, but for now this seems to be sufficing.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(NancyL) Going to Q2
(S7L) Personal. Can we assist Nancy in some useful way?
(NancyL) 2. How many Zetas appear in these communications? Can you make a distinction between them as being different personalities, having different "voices"? Do they consider these sessions as "big events" (we surely do) or but as usual chatting? Do they need to prepare for these or have real-time access to assistance if needed? Do the Zetas read all the peoples mind on the IRC-session?
(NancyL) ZT to S7L: Nancy finds that most "help" in fact interferes, as she mulit-tasks and is highly organized.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the best help would be to try to lift some of the tasks she does, let her delegate.
(NancyL) ZT: Brent has offered to collect content, but lately Nancy finds she can't even get to web wrapping much.
(NancyL) ZT: The Awakening took a burden away, a different approach, and such thinking, allowing TT to sit as a finished product, would help Nancy in future.
(NancyL) ZT: Also, we encourage creative thinking among you all.
(NancyL) End ZT to S7L, onto Q2
(NancyL) ZT: As with all of ZetaTalk, teams are assembled based on the expected questions.
(NancyL) ZT: We indeed know who will be attending, who plans to ask what, and sense new questions arising before they are voiced.
(NancyL) ZT: In that we are highly telepathic and can assemble a team in an instant, this is not problem to change the participant mixture.
(NancyL) ZT: Are we physically present? No, we stay at our tasks, perhaps taking a break in part to participate.
(NancyL) ZT: Telepathic brain waves go long distances, are highly tuned as to frequency, and we are all particiapating as though picking up a phone!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we are ahead of you, at all times.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(JaM) How would future earth changes affect sessions like this? Would the zetas warn of upcoming disasters in time to prepare?
(Jan) Are the Zetans just as specialized as the humans, or do they have much broader competencies in general?
(Brian) I think that's funny
(Longint) Nancy, I asked if YOU can differ their voice.
(Jos) Yeah, what are those "tasks" for instance
(Spanky) What about on the IRC sessions, how much do the zetas track those?
(Jos) What is "this" guy/girl doing right now :-))
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: We have a broader range of specialities than humans imagine, as we come from many different worlds, and have lived more lifetimes, in a more technological society.
(Zetapal) Parlor trick Jos
(JaM) What I meant was more specific occurrences.
(NancyL) ZT to JaM: We are not allowed to warn of Earth changes other than the broad message of the coming shift, for instance, in response to the Call.
(NancyL) ZT: to alert that there is a likely quake due in this or that part of the world is considered interference, parenting, and not allowed.
(Jan) But is each Zetan only having one single speciality as humans, or are they/you broader in areas covered?
(NancyL) ZT: to step in and attempt a warning would send us packing! So, we hold our breath and say nothing.
(JaM) I understand.
(NancyL) Long, I sense different groups, interests, yes, but they don't have a voice per se. Just thoughts that pop into my head.
(NancyL) Some are very poetic, as when they were describing for sci.astro, re plate crunching during the shift.
(NancyL) They said, "for those plates already subducting, the script has been written".
(NancyL) I thought that poetic.
(NancyL) Others are obviously military, very tough in their stance.
(NancyL) And others social, others scientific, there are different tones, yes.
(Jos) They are nice guys aren't they :)?
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: We are multi-faceted, but as most humans have discovered, they can contribute MORE with some specializing.
(NancyL) Q3 ..
(NancyL) 3. Will the Zetas and/or others be available for us somehow to chat with after the pole shift too?
(NancyL) ZT: This is an issue that has come up lately, with increasing frequency.
(NancyL) ZT: Where will Nancy be? Will she be connected via the Internet?
(NancyL) ZT: Will ZetaTalk continue? If so, how?
(NancyL) ZT: We mentioned during a prior chat that Nancy has been invited to live with us, in hybrid communities.
(NancyL) ZT: Those humans invited into these communities know who they are, and have either declined or quietly accepted.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not necessarily an easy life, as we bustle.
(NancyL) ZT: There is not an idle moment, in spite of fatigue, and no quarter given to weakness such as the need for a good cry or a distration.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, as hard as Nancy works, she can expect to work harder, experience more grief, in her old age.
(NancyL) ZT: The means of communication is being deliberately withheld at this moment, for obvious reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: The self centered, the power hungry, the elite desperate to continue their grip, are trying to position for the future.
(NancyL) ZT: Trust us to say that STO communiities will find they are NOT out of the loop, are NOT without visitors whom they will instinctively recognize.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, you may have Nancy for a visitor, bearing gifts.
(NancyL) ZT: More as the hour of the shift approaches.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Jan) The TT Radio project is currently stalled due to a number of reasons. Will there be any assistance to get this going again, and will Nancy be able to tap into post-PS radio (HF) communication?
(Canuck) Do these communities exist already?
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: Short wave, as we have mentioned, is THE best means of humans to contact one another.
(Canuck) Hybrid communities I mean.
(Linus) I am due to finish my term in the military this summer, so I am curious as to what role the military will play in the aftertime for the elite. I have felt better and better lately for my decision to leave the military... Though I wasn't exactly sure why.
(NancyL) ZT: For those communities that will setup with this means, inability to link due to a hilltop missing an antenna will NOT be a problem.
(NancyL) ZT: They will find this network intact! Angels at work.
(Longint) Canuck: they are living on Mars currently
(NancyL) ZT to Linus: The military is a life style chosen by those who like structure and feel the need to strong support in their personal life.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the military cut adrift, as they will be, prior to the shift, will find this highly distressing.
(Brian) Are the humans that have been invited to hybrid communities aware of it?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there are many in the military who will find themselves attracked to the job offers they will get.
(NancyL) ZT: This will be posed to them as supporting the government, such that civilization can continue.
(NancyL) ZT: They will find, however, that they are supporting an elite class cruel to the populace.
(NancyL) ZT: Those among the military who are power mad themselves, will turn this around UPON the elite, in time.
(NancyL) ZT: Those horrified at what has occurred will desert.
(NancyL) Next Q
(NancyL) VOLCANIC ASH
(NancyL) 1. Will all the volcanic ash in the atmosphere adversely affect the world temperature to a lower range for a time (even in areas near the equator), as in the formally much talked about "nuclear winter"?
(NancyL) ZT: The nuclear winter must discussed during the Cold War in fact does not occur during ash times.
(NancyL) ZT: Has this occured in the past? Mankind surmises this, with the extinction of the dinosaur attributed to heavy ash.
(NancyL) ZT: This is all speculation, and as we have stated, the dinosaur died because of a virus, not a meteor strike.
(NancyL) ZT: Sunlight warms even if it cannot make it throught he clouds. It warms the CLOUDS, the air, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, especially since the core is warming the Earth today with its increased swirling, you can expect that the core will continue to make the globe WARMER, after the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: In addition, the atmosphere will be torn away, so the clouds will be lower and the atmosphere LESS of a block to the warmth of the sunlight than today.
(NancyL) ZT: All reasons for the globe to stay warm, which it will.
(NancyL) ZT: You can anticipate the same degree of warmth, per latitude, that you experience today.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Spanky) With less atmosphere will there be more radiation poisoning, sunburn, etc?
(Jos) How long after the shift appr. will lead be dangerous in the rain-water from Vulc. ash ?
(Linus) So if the dinisaurs were wiped out due to a virus and not a meteor strike, is the whole Yucatan meteor story a subterfuge?
(Jan) The dinosaur virus, was that a natural occurance or was it a planted virus and a planned extinction?
(Superzod) Will the HEAVY magnetic (from the comet) field affect HUMAN behaviour. Will vortex cards help.
(Zetapal) JJ - go to Troubled Times - Safe Places
(Clipper) Jan read my mind:-)
(NancyL) ZT to Spanky: Sunburn and radiation are suppressed by the ash cloud, the one advantage.
(JJ) I started there, but other than the salt flats suggestion it wasn't that helpfull...unless I missed something.
(NancyL) ZT to Jos: Depending upon where one is, downwind from volcanoes, the ash will poison the water and soil.
(NancyL) ZT: This tends to be the immediate effect after a VIOLENT burping, not a lingering effect.
(Jos) Ok, thanks !
(NancyL) ZT: However, since violent burping will occur big time during the shift, ALL ash afterwards will carry poisons.
(Brian) How do the Zetas recomend we purify water?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, until the rains wash this away, some months at best, drinking water should be distilled.
(NancyL) ZT: Ground water may carry these poisons for a longer time, depending upon how close to the surface this is, the flow patters, etc.
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: Dinosaurs were related, and when a virus mutated, this affected them ALL.
(NancyL) Brian, distill it.
(NancyL) 2. How well will local edible plants grow in British Columbia (and other temperate, fertile areas) in the years following the shift (ie. will there be enough growth to support the survival of small groups)?
(NancyL) ZT: Vegetation is most affected by the lack of light, and secondarily by being drown.
(NancyL) ZT: The lush rain forests your beautiful Earth supports give voice to the tenacity of vegetation to survive.
(JJ) Is Kalispell in montana a bad place to relocated to with the changes coming about?
(NancyL) ZT: Many seeds sprout only when conditions are right, so decades later emerge.
(NancyL) ZT: Those looking to crops will find this is NOT the way to go, in the immedate aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: As we repeatedly mention, fishing is a good source of protein, as are bugs, and plants should be the minimal part of your diet.
(NancyL) ZT: Humans are used to just the opposite. So this is a mind set adjustment.
(NancyL) ZT: A bit of salad, something with high Vitamin C, but use this almost as a garnish!
(NancyL) End ZT: Followup?
(Spanky) Aren't the fish going to be poisoned from the ash too?
(HBO2) Will most animals as a food source be eliminated by PS and after flooding, lack of food, etc?
(NancyL) ZT to Spanky: Water dillutes, where ground water stagnates.
(Brian) Won't the lead get into the plants if they are grown outside? Should we be concerned about this?
(NancyL) ZT: Fish likewise have an ability to EXCLUDE lead, though do absorb other heavy metals such as Mercury.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, water retains warmth, and algae grows in abundance in places land based plants cannot tolerate.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, this resource should be explored, and explored THOROUGHLY, prior to the shift, as a real survival technique.
(NancyL) ZT to HBO2: Wildlife struggles, as the extinction of the Mammoth shows.
(NancyL) ZT: Wildlife is used to a struggle, and migrates almost constantly after the shift, so survives in general.
(Spanky) What allowed some reptiles to survive the dinosaur extinction?
(NancyL) ZT: Domesticated animals survive because of the determination of their owners, who remain attached to the hope that their prior life will return.
(Longint) Spanky: they were not effected by this virus.
(NancyL) ZT: Relying on wildlife, hunting, will prove disappointing as wildlife will soon diminish to the point of no results.
(NancyL) ZT: Hunters will at first eat well, then starve.
(NancyL) Spanky ZT: Dinosaur survived to become the current reptiles because, as with any infection, there are SOME who have resistance.
(Bouzouki) Excuse me I have some retard...
(Bouzouki) Hello NancyL
(NancyL) ZT: All became sickly, and the smaller ones needed less to eat than the larger, and thus prevailed.
(NancyL) Next Q ...
(NancyL) CHARIOT OF THE GODS
(NancyL) 1. What can Zetas say about Erik Von Däniken?
(NancyL) ZT: The book, Chariot of the Gods by Van Daniken, was considered radical when first published, but its success is due to the simplicity of the explanation it offered.
(NancyL) ZT: Offering a web that encompassed cave man drawings, landing strips high in the Andes, and the current experiences of man out in space, was a hit.
(NancyL) ZT: Few could find fault with the logic, which was in fact based on truth, and this has held through criticsm.
(NancyL) ZT: By giving a rational argument to the concept of visitors, Van Daniken is to be applauded.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Linus) Does the biblical story of Elijah have a connection to visitors?
(DavidS) Could Zetas say anything more about Nazca-lines - why did they make spiderstrips and other animalstrips and when etc on Nazca?
(DavidS) It is one of the Daniken-areas
(Spanky) Linus: I think you meant Ezekiel
(Linus) No...he saw the wheels..
(Linus) Elijah was taken up
(NancyL) ZT to Linus: Prior to Roswell, visitors were not required to record their visits only in the subconscious of humans.
(NancyL) ZT: As the book, the Vedas, reports, humans saw their visitors as having all manner of shapes.
(NancyL) ZT: In trying to relay their experiences, humans often stumbled and struggled.
(JaM) How come the pyramids at Giza, Angkor Wat (Malaysia) and Central America lineup along the same latitude when the zetas say that landmasses can separate during pole shifts?
(NancyL) ZT: Many described them as odd animals, but beyond the physical appearance of their visitors, how to describe the phenomena that accompanied them?
(NancyL) ZT: Levitation, space ships suddently appearing or zooming away, lasers, the ability to disarm humans without touching them, etc.
(Brian) Are there any people on earth with Nibarian blood lines and if so who?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, fire, wind, whatever might relay this experience, became the verbal story.
(NancyL) ZT: This often confused those who came later, and could not ask for clarification of the story teller.
(NancyL) ZT: To futher cloud the issue are the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, who lived among mankind until a few millenia ago.
(NancyL) ZT: They live in the Bible, as the giant Goliath, for instance, and are REAL visitors in hominoids form.
(NancyL) ZT: They are the Gods of Mt Olympus, the Visigoth in Germany, and giants reported elsewhere.
(Superzod) Guillvers Travel ????
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, visitors in many shapes and forms are mixed in with myth, and current mankind is left to sort it out.
(Linus) Thank you
(NancyL) ZT: In the main, take your myths and stories in this context, and see what the picture paints!
(NancyL) ZT: Most folklore is NOT story telling, but a serious attempt to pass on important information.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(JaM) 12th planet hominoids have long heads? Drastically different from our structure?
(Boris) Did Giordano Bruno entered in contact with STO ETs?
(DavidS) Brian: I guess, Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of the humans who have Niburian blood lines:-)
(NancyL) JaM, longer faces, yes.
(Brian) Where does human DNA come from, or who designed it?
(NancyL) Boris, who the heck is this G Bruno, some background for Nancy please?
(Bouzouki) Why the zone 51 have a landing way longer that 9 km?
(NancyL) DavidS, I've though that myself. But Tyson, biting off ears and the like, has more their temper.
(NancyL) Brian, read the Hybrid section, we are quite a mix!
(Jane) He was a 16th century philosopher.
(Jane) Burned at the stake for heresy.
(NancyL) Bouz, are you talking about Area 51?
(DavidS) Could Zetas talk more about Nazca/landingstripes on Andes - when it was created and why did they create animal-stripes as well?
(Jane) Spoke and wrote about a universe filled with intelligent beings
(Boris) Nancy, Jane answered for me.
(Bouzouki) Yes, excuse I'm Belgian.
(JaM) I think he stipulated about the sun being center of cosmos and not earth.
(NancyL) Jan, re this philospher, yes, per the Z's he was STO influenced.
(NancyL) Jane, just the type they burned at the stake, yes. Lovely Catholic Church!
(NancyL) Next Q on the agenda ...
(NancyL) AFTER DEATH
(NancyL) 1. What are the stages the spirit experiences after the death of the body?
(NancyL) ZT: The spirit is aware of the death of its current incarnation before the body lets go.
(Boris) G. Bruno spoke that there were thousands of thousands wordls in the universe and so he was burned.
(NancyL) ZT: This is why the Near Death Experience reports the spirit seeing the death, close at hand, in the body, from a distance.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, many spirits do not recall the moment of death, as they vacate!
(Svnmn) I read that Bruno was also argumentative and impolite...
(Bouzouki) In www.zetatalk.com, you say that zetas give technologies to people who ask them. But them, how have them that learn? With who?
(NancyL) ZT: The spirit is often mulling the past life over prior to this moment, and planning the next incarnation.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is a normal progression to discussion with the Sprit Guides, who are in teamship with the Birthing Guides, and the next incarnation is often arranged quickly.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have mentioned this is not the choice of the young spirit, but of the guides.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it's a bit like getting of a train at the station, and walking over to our next train!
(NancyL) ZT: Just like that, on your way again!
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Linus) I've read in Zetatalk about the dissolution of souls which have not accrued sufficient mass as first time incarnations, so what one thing is most crucial to ensure continuation, and how does one discern if they are a new soul or an old soul?
(JaM) Can a spirit refuse to immediately reincarnate and lull for a while?
(Jane) Cayce spoke of an average of a hundred year periods in between incarnations. This isn't accurate?
(NancyL) Linus, struggle, I take it. A soft life is not the way, per prior discussions. Read the logs.
(Brian) Can the spirit go back in time to incarnate?
(SteveH) Does the spirit have access to view it's past lives at will after it's current incarnation has ended?
(DV_DA) So there is no end or final death for a spirit even if it wants a total and complete inexistence it will never happen?
(Jan) In Theosophy, Rudolf Steiner said that the time between incarnations could be 100 - 1.000 years (IIRC). How come this misunderstanding?
(NancyL) JaM ZT: If the spirit is lingering, it is often allowed to do so, else it avoids the current incarnation and is distracted.
(NancyL) ZT to SteveH: Spirits are AWARE of their past lives, though the human incarnated is clueless, often.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, for the spirit, there is no change in this matter after death.
(HBO2) Time as a spirit is not linear as it is to us; thus 100 or 1000 does not mean much.
(NancyL) Brian, no, not time travel for us youngsters.
(JaM) So in what plane does a spirit go if it does not reincarnate yet?
(NancyL) ZT to DV-DA: As we have stated, the spirit, once sparked, does not die, and pain must be dealt with as a resolution on future lives.
(DV_DA) So suicide is rather pointless. Hah. Thanks for the info.
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: Where the Theosophists were valid channeled works, they were expressing in human terms that the spirit lives LONGER than the human body. This was for emphasis.
(NancyL) 2. Can the spirit communicate to everyone in the afterlife?
(NancyL) 3. Can the spirit learn then, from others and/or from itself by thinking, or everything is just inconstancy?
(Jan) Nancy, 1,000 - 6,000 incarnations have been called young souls, 1 million old. What is the average number of incarnations of re-incarnated souls on Earth? What is considered a really old soul? How old are the Zetans?
(NancyL) ZT: The spirit between incarnations is like an OoB experience, in that it can commicate more readily, and thus the Guides have no problem getting them to gather.
(Bouzouki) Can the spirit communicate to everyone in the afterlife?
(NancyL) ZT: They are talking up a storm, especially if coming from a recent disaster or shared experience.
(NancyL) ZT: Once reincarnated, the young spirits are intent on learning experiences, pressing agendas forward, and the like.
(NancyL) ZT: Incarnations are MORE than discussion groups, they are action oriented!
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Folks, I'm poopped and it's been the hour.
(Svnmn) Thanks Nancy!
(NancyL) My neck is in a knot from typing fast :-)
(NancyL) The dog wants his supper.
(JaM) Thanks for a great chat Nancy and zetans!
(NancyL) Blame the dog :-)
(Jos) Thanks for the effort Nance.
(Linus) Have a good night Nancy.
(Jane) Many thanks Nancy and Zetas
(S7L) Thanks Nancy. It was most interesting again.
(Gerard) Thanks for the good session Nancy and the Zetas
(NancyL) Thank you all for inspiring great ZetaTalk!
(HBO2) Nancy, you need to get a voice activated keyboard!
(Jan) Thanks for a great chat!
(DavidS) Thanx - and you should get a massage on your shoulders...
(Svnmn) I fed my dog while you were typing like mad!
(NancyL) Thanks also to our faithful moderators and technicians, Jurian and Gerard, without whom this would not be possible!
(Brian) Where does it all end? Is there an end to the spirit school? Do they become God?
Session Close: Sat Jan 26 17:07:05 2002