Session Start: Sat Feb 15 15:48:45 2003
(MichaelCunningham) I have a vested personal interest in it
(PegasiTristan) how so?
(NancyL) Cunningham is BAAACCCKKKK!
(Tied2) aceppt your DCC
(Franci66) 110,000,000 people is the estimated figure of today's world peace demonstrators a ZT comment is required!!
(MichaelCunningham) my son is on the front lines currently as is one of my nephews and a cousin
(MikeO) If Blair didn't concede a little toward the U.N. this week, he'd be in big political trouble as we speak.
(NancyL) Like Poltergist movie, or the Freddy movies, or the Holloween movies, the evil always returns!
(PegasiTristan) MC: Tell them to be smart and come home
(Beyond) this is a hallmark moment
(Silk) starts right in attacking people
(MichaelCunningham) glad I could be here Nancy!
(TheBadAstronomer) May I join this little family reunion as well?
(Jeremy) A debunkers reunion ;)
(NancyL) He must have gotten new orders. We noted last week that he and Silk were both absent, and sci.astro debunking has dropped from a roar to silence, and wondered why.
(Tizza) now we're crankin!
(PegasiTristan) what attack? She only made an observation
(MichaelCunningham) was in a hospital bed last weekend!
(Penny) hi Nancy honored to meet you
(Silk) Actually Nancy, I was here all along
(TheBadAstronomer) Hi Silk, I have heard a lot about you in Ms. Lieder's logs
(Beyond) yea Nancy you got last week off!
(NancyL) They have a hive mind, the debunkers, and follow communal orders (kind of cult-like, wouldn't you say?) so they will most likely ALL do the same thing, say the same thing, today.
(Silk) How aboput I give you an observation like that Tristan, see how long before I get kicked
(NancyL) Lets watch!
(Ptomais) big time
(MichaelCunningham) everyone meet Phil of the BadAstronomy!
(Silk) Yeah Phil, I'm the evil one
(PegasiTristan) oh god
(NancyL) Silk is BBBAAACCCKKK!
(Earth420) Please Silkl!
(Tied2) Does anyone want a copy of "all about food and water" 237 pages packed full of good info in MS word format ready to be printed
(NancyL) And at the start of the hour, with MC! Same orders, same schedule :-)
(Silk) same conspiracy garbage
(MichaelCunningham) you're actually in a good mood today Nancy!
(MikeO) If Silk was here last week, I don't recall seeing her name on the list. Well, Condoleeza's name doesn't appear either, nor does Mr. Putin's, but they're reading nonetheless.
(NancyL) Well, I posted on sci.astro today, the Trends of the sightings, and this was perhaps upsetting to the debunker master.
(PegasiTristan) MikeO:heh, yup
(HungarianGenius) Was Silk Sick?
(Silk) That right Mike-O
(Mugada1) ok tired
(ZooSpecimen) NancyL If worse comes to worse why not just have the Z's lecture all hour?
(MichaelCunningham) not really, was reading them and will respond accordingly
(NancyL) I can hear him now, "I don't care WHAT you do, just disrupt, disrupt, disrupt!"
(Lombo243) the evil helps you to ascend you should be thanksful nancy.
(PegasiTristan) damn the man
(Silk) Nancy's weekly spamming of sci.astro - lol
(Obany) those who are here just to disrupt will be kicked and banned for the hour
(Earth420) Yeah Silk
(NancyL) So they're in here in force, because the simple message is such a THREAT! Rather obvious, as if it were just crazy, then no one would pay attention.
(MichaelCunningham) I'll follow your rules Obany
(Obany) that included you Silk, and i don't mind putting a ban on AOL
(PegasiTristan) I wonder who the king debunker realy is? *ponder*
(Jeremy) Obany: yes and that includes participants on both sides of the camp
(Dim) Obany, Please start with these two now.
(HungarianGenius) I think we need to say thenks for new better attitude for past debunkers
(Redeye) haha Nancy too true
(Silk) poor excuse Nancy. Why post to sci.astro if you don't want us here?
(Torbj) Look at the date! "Astronomers worldwide will collaborate in continuous observations of one of these newly found stars for several weeks in May 2003." link: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/02/030214075233.htm
(NancyL) The Hungarians have it in for Silk, ever since she walked into their nest here and stated that Gypsies were all Hungarians :-)
(Silk) guess that shoots the May 15th date rigt to heck, eh Torbj?
(Beyond) Nancy, RE KROQ interview....excellent job! You interfaced very well with those cutsie radio personalities, and STILL managed to get the major message out. Cheers!
(Franci66) 110,000,000 people is the estimated figure of today's world peace demonstrators a ZT comment is required!!
(Phoenix) Interesting info, Torbj.
(NancyL) Well folks, I'm collecting an Agenda, so ask your Q's while I post a few SIGNS of the TIMES.
(RudyJoe) Nancy, can you tell us something about the strange 'electrical flashes' that were photographed striking the shuttle just before it crashed?
(MichaelCunningham) let's hope there's a repeat of the KROQ!
(Serbeo) Q;will bush fail in getting war, now with all world wide protests going on?
(Silk) Kinda like your asteroid that you called a moon Nancy?
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #1 No Warning to be Given
(NancyL) Armageddon Asteroids 'Best Kept Secret', 15 Feb 2003: "A scientific adviser to the United States government has suggested that secrecy might be the best option if scientists were ever to discover that a
(NancyL) giant asteroid was on course to collide with Earth. When a problem arises with high uncertainty, there is an opportunity to spin the problem to avoid global panic. If you can't do anything about a warning, then there is no point in issuing a warning at all,"
(Lombo243) Nancy I have a question for teh zetas: is nibiru a planet or a spaceship. i really want to know that from the zetas, serious.
(HungarianGenius) Do You know about Golden Rosycross Nancy?
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #2 Shuttle Columbia External Breach
(NancyL) Chronicle Science Editor Sunday, Feb 2, 2003 "The photographer invited The Chronicle to view the photos on his computer screen Saturday night, and they are indeed puzzling. They show a bright scraggly flash of orange light, tinged with pale purple, and shaped somewhat like a deformed L."
(NancyL) "The flash appears to cross the Columbia's dim contrail, and at that precise point, the contrail abruptly brightens and appears thicker and somewhat twisted as if it were wobbling. "
(NancyL) Shuttle Columbia, external breach reported as cause by NASA as of Feb 14, 2002.
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #3 Qualified Answer "No Scientific Evidence of Coming Event"
(NancyL) Nancy, I requested to the group that handle the hubble telescope to take a look into the cordinates that have been provided from your zetatalk site. here is the answer from the outreach: "Hubble Space Telescope's schedule of observations are very carefully planned months in advance. These observations are prepared as the result of astronomers' accepted proposals, submitted the previous year."
(NancyL) "There is no scientific evidence that such an event is going to happen. Since you have the coordinates, why don't you go look for yourself? Office of Public Outreach"
(NancyL) SIGN of the TIMES #5
(NancyL) Investment Advice: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00. With Worldcom, you would have less
(NancyL) than $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Pepsi (the soda, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the soda, then turned in the bottles for a 5 cent deposit, you would have $107.00.
(NancyL) Beyond, thanks for the compliment :-)
(Jeremy) Nancy: Was the deployment of troops at Heathrow airport earlier in the week by the UK government linked to any plans for instigating martial law closer to the time of the pole shift?
(Zombryo) Q1: If somebody has an "unsparked" soul, how can an average human recognise that? What are the symptoms of "being unsparked"? Can sparking be encouraged by another entity?
(Zombryo) Q2: In the 4th density, approximately how many incarnations are needed for the souls to learn their lessons?
(Gyflex) Q: Approx. when will PX reach the edge of our solar system? will severe earth changes then intensify?
(Redeye) good Q Jel
(Redeye) although most prob. yes
(Oceantree) Q: does erery soul have a custodian?
(NancyL) RudyJoe, this was the factor that tore the shuttle apart. Remember that the Z's said, that Saturday, that the Council had authorized this, NOT an accident, and it was per NASA an outside something that cause a breach.
(Zod2) Nacny, could you elaborate on how we can use INTITION to save/guide us in the comming times????
(Zman) I think you were very cool the way you handled those radio jocks, Nancy. A lot of class!
(Beyond) Q for Zetas: From info gathered in ZT and your BOOK, PX's diameter should be about 16 moons wide! Is this accurate, and how many moons does PX actually have?
(Ojabun) Crist.. it never serious, it either way too dramatic, or plain feritales
(NancyL) Serbeo, this is in the hands of man, so no telling. Last week Z's said we may have this state for weeks and months, but no war, or have a start of a war with some surprises for Bush Admin (ala Shuttle problem)
(Silk) hmmm erwritting predictions again?
(Dave7) It's the end of the world and these clowns are still worried about their SOCIAL COSTS.
(MikeO) Q: Most of the world now knows that the planned war on Iraq is about oil, though that might be only half the story. Do the Zetas expect the world to start realizing (if it's true), that the other half of this war is about Israeli expansionism and their death-grip on American foreign policy?
(NancyL) Silk, there are 29 of them at the last coordiantes? Can you detail that on your web site, or are you only spouting, not into evidence.
(Earth420) Possible question... could the Zs comment on any progress as to someone of authority trying to tell of Planet X?
(Halo8) Bush is an ass! and we all know it
(Silk) 29 what Nancy?
(Ptomais) 'behind every Bush is a terrorist'
(NancyL) Hungarian, if the Golden Rs are a group, the Zetas only speak about what OTHERS say if 1. they predict, 2. they are accurate, etc.
(Torbj) Bush is here... as you and I... Dance with him!!
(Zman) A scientific adviser to the United States government has suggested that secrecy might be the best option if scientists were ever to discover that a giant asteroid was on course to collide with Earth.
(Zman) In certain circumstances, nothing could be done to avoid such a collision and ensuing destruction, and it would be best not to tell the public anything, said Geoffrey Sommer, of the Rand Corporation in Santa Monica, California
(Earth420) Yeah, and what does a Bush look like covered in oil? A mess...
(HungarianGenius) Nancy :Do You know the book "Unmasking"?
(Zman) an example of the leaking going on....
(Vn) can Zetas comment about the possible other alien races that might save planet earth by changing Planet X path to not bypass earth so close ?
(Johnnie5) could someone please get the Silk out of my underwear? it's starting to ride up.
(MichaelCunningham) would be pretty hard to keep us amateur astronomers silent about a collision
(Beyond) Vn.they are all in the same club. take orders from above
(TheBadAstronomer) Sommer was on a panel discussing ramifications of a big asteroid impact. His opinion was in the very small minority.
(NancyL) Jeremy, this topic was kind of addressed in #poleshiftdiscussion re the attempts of the elite to mislead and control the public. YES, false terror alerts and blockades were part of that, so check new ZT :-)
(TheBadAstronomer) The other panelists said that the news should be released.
(Jeremy) Nancy: Ok, thanks
(NancyL) Zombryo, a mature soul can recognize if they are talking to another, or an unsparked, or immature, etc.
(NancyL) So if you are not THAT, there ARE no guidelines that can be externally known, etc.
(Ojabun) did you ever hear about planet 'Iarga' nancy?
(HungarianGenius) Nancy do you know about astral and menthal body of a human?
(NYCtrader) Nancy: 1 year ago (2/14/02) Nortel stock closed at $5.72, so $1000 bought 174.8, or rounded 175 shares; on friday 2/14/03, Nortel stock closed at $2.31, so your investment is $404; so your statement that if you had bought $1000 of Nortel stock 1 year ago and now it being worth $49, is incorrect
(NancyL) Gyflex, re severe Earth Changes, this is lineal up until the last weeks, per the Z's. And they are not allowed to predict specifically what city, what quake, etc. sorry.
(HungarianGenius) or Zetas know about it?
(Redeye) did Queen's chat go ok this week ?
(Cosmic) NancyL, can you give some information about the process of natural selection on the planet zeta, and what is the mechanism of heredity
(Redeye) earlier i mean
(Earth420) Redeye, yes went quite well
(NancyL) Zod2, yoou will have the intuition you have NOW, then, so practice is all I can say.
(Beyond) Here are my calculations: EARTH'S MOON is roughly the size as PX's moons, and ALSO roughly 1/4 the diameter of Earth. And the Earth is roughly 1/4 the diameter of PX. It follows that PX's diameter is 16 MOONS WIDE. So, if that's PX in the little white circle, any of its moons would be too tiny to see.
(Chasc) menthal body? sounds minty
(Obany) Cosmic: check zetatalk for that choose world section
(NancyL) Zman thanks! :-)
(HungarianGenius) Nancy do you know about higher reality?
(Zman) no problem, NancyL
(HungarianGenius) like astral world or menthal world?
(HungarianGenius) or Zetas know about it?
(NancyL) Beyond, recently (take the Planet X Sighting link and check what the Z's have said) they said "dozens" of moons.
(Nomis) 133Users is this REAL?
(JWilliam) Beyond: We are talking light reflection, not physical size.
(Vn) I believe there are alien races that have techonology to influece the Planet X path and the zetas and the rest might not know about it
(Halo8) Are there any plans to send Sat's out away from the planet during the PS then return to be used to boost Communications?
(HungarianGenius) and about life after death?
(Obany) check zetatalk, Being Human, Density section etc... there is info
(NancyL) Beyond, on, Px was never stated as being 16 moons wide! Give me that quote!
(Silk2) I see Havas and J William Dell circled more hot pixels on the Feb 7 images
(Beyond) page 204 of the book has half of it
(Silk2) and one cosmic ray hit :)
(Serbeo) how old is the moon?
(HungarianGenius) Nancy do you know any mysterie school?
(Beyond) well doesn't it have to be much bigger than its moons?
(HungarianGenius) Did you hear about Hermes Trismegistos?
(Cosmic) NancyL, what's your favourite colour?
(Serbeo) earths moon
(Lombo243) Hungarian: OBE?
(NancyL) MikeO, I think given the close hug of Bush and Israel, that the Muslim world at least sees the plan.
(HungarianGenius) Nancy or Jakob Bohme?
(Ojabun) the great Hermes!
(Redeye) whats with the wacky Q's !!
(Earth420) no doubt
(Dave7) VN your clutching at straws
(Cruithne) when will asteroids pummel the earth b4 px day time viewing?
(NancyL) Hungarian, not have not read Unmasking, etc.
(HungarianGenius) I did not find any metaphisical knowledge of Zetas
(JWilliam) Silk: I circle everything Avis detects. Its up to everyone to determine each instance. There are two many hits to all be hot pixels and cosmic rays
(Obany) please ask good questions ... please questions that have use
(HungarianGenius) looks like Zetas do not know about God more then humans
(NancyL) Ojabun, no Larga planet either.
(HungarianGenius) but Hermes knows much more
(NancyL) Hungarian, OOB is in the Being Human section of ZT.
(Earth420) Can the Zetas comment on the people that are trying to get the message out about Planet X, how they are with the subject of that happening?
(Masisoar) Does Bush have any other plans outside of Iraq?
(Ojabun) rather coincidence isn't it, mankind comes loose from God...and suddenly a PX comes to wipe us out
(MikeO) The Zetas say they don't know much more about God than we do.
(HungarianGenius) Looks like Zetas are material oriented
(MichaelCunningham) I wish Maxim DL had a detect switch!
(NancyL) NYC Trader, this was not my statement, forwarded to me, so I did not check the accuracy, sorry.
(InSomNiaC420) They are only one step higher than us Hungarian..
(Redeye) Earth, Z's said this all 2 plan
(PegasiTristan) Ojabun: PX has always been around
(NancyL) Redeye, yes! Queen's chat 100% OK!
(Tied2) Nancy was the plane crash in Columbia related to the PS in any way?
(Serbeo) what will happen to the Allagany river?
(Obany) HungarianGenius: please read some more of zetatalk before you aks your kind of questions here ... and it seems to me that you don't know that much about them either
(Earth420) hmmm Redeye, I just keep goin you know!
(NYCtrader) Nancy; no problem,
(Ojabun) i still say the earth is like a puppy, it just follows us.. and we gone off the middle,and so will the earth
(HungarianGenius) The Rosicrucians said 50 years ago, big changes will start at 2001
(NancyL) Beyond, oh, this was YOUR calculations. Nowhere did ZT say anything about the size of PX moons, only their number.
(Redeye) Nancy,:-) good good
(dBug) Nancy, do you stand with the prediction on sights to occur Mrch 28th?
(Cosmic) NancyL, what's plan B if the end of the world doesn't turn up
(MikeO) Q: Is it any coincidence that Democratic Senator Kerry has been diagnosed with cancer?
(Beyond) p 204 they say PX's moon are about the size of Earths
(Earth420) Whats your cosmic when you see it?
(MichaelCunningham) can the Zetas tell us what size the moons are Nancy?
(Jeremy) Nancy: This may sound a bit trivial, but will the perpetual power pack dropped off at STO communities have universal sockets for power leads, and assuming so, how many?
(HungarianGenius) Cancer is tipical selfkilling
(Franci66) A Q for Nancy: 110,000,000 people on this planet today have attended at various peace demonstrations. What is ZT's comment?
(Dave7) ojabun we are out of balance with the earthmother
(NancyL) Halo8, the satellites will be torn from the skies, they have enough trouble getting them UP there, and to STAY there, and to FUNCTION, so you are dreaming in your statement about sending them away and then come back!
(HungarianGenius) when a soul want to die it gives cancer to body
(Ojabun) no, with ourselves Dave
(Earth420) Ourselves and Our Mother Earth
(Masisoar) Nancy, outside of the elite wanting Iraq, do other countries have scheming plans to do such things to other countries if one might keep a little stability?
(Torbj) the reasent lift of the ISS...any coment by Zeta?
(InSomNiaC420) Question:During the years after the pole shift, the zeta-human hybrids are supposed to be the next step for mankind.. Correct? So, many years from the shift, will the remaining humans have altered DNA that will change then to be more like the hybrids?
(Dave7) That too OJ
(Earth420) Can the Zetas comment on the recent flu outbreak in China? Was this man made?
(HungarianGenius) Does Zetas know Queen Elisabeth is a Reptilian?
(NancyL) Jeremy, the Z's have said that these power packs will have the connections you will need, 12V or otherwise, so no worry on your part.
(Sundar) Unfortunately countries other than US may be in a state of shock rather than in self-denial like US establishment
(NancyL) I am going to take Earth's Q as Q1 ...
(ZZMike) will a steel conex container protect electronic equipment during the shift?
(Domicile) Follow-up to Jeremy's Q: If a power pac does show up is this an indication of no STS's in the area?
(NancyL) Q1: Can the Zetas comment on the people that are trying to get the message out about Planet X, how they are with the subject of that happening?
(Beyond) way to go Earth!
(NancyL) ZT: Those humans who have pre-knowledge of the coming events, the pole shift and its effect on the world, the aftertime and how it will unfold, have varrying reactions to holding this information, and various reactions as to what to do with it.
(NancyL) ZT: Not all these humans are contactees, as many simply tap into recent events, read history, study geology, and not the erratic and irrational behavior of the major governments of the world.
(NancyL) ZT: Most telling are the LACK of addressing the weather, its effects on the ecomomy and insurance industry and ability to conduct business, increasingly affected.
(NancyL) ZT: This is simply NEVER addressed as a cause, despite the fact that all countries and all populations are discussing among themselves, on the street, the state of the weather.
(NancyL) ZT: Those along the coastline, or having any family or friends there, or business dealings there, are aware of higher tides, the effect of melting poles and glaciers, islands going under the waves, are alarming.
(NancyL) ZT: Is this being addressed by the MOST powerful country in the world, the US, which declares itself exempt from any Global Warming treaties, stating polluting will continue by the largest polluter.
(NancyL) ZT: The Stock Market, clearly a focus of those who put a Republican into office, even by voter fraud when needed, has been plunging.
(NancyL) ZT: Attempts to put Social Security funds into the market, robbing the poor to support the rich, did not occur as the Market started plunging early.
(NancyL) ZT: Attempts recently to put money into the market by exempting dividents from taxes is unlikely to come to the rescue.
(NancyL) ZT: So in the face of a faltering market, the Bush Administration is INSTSTENT on war with Iraq, an odd behavior for a President supposely snug with the rich.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the common man, watching this comedy of errors, knows that something is up.
(NancyL) ZT: They increasingly give the Call, and get a proper answer.
(NancyL) ZT: Then discussions start at the coffee house, the bar, the family table, with an interpretation that most would NOT come up with on their own, and a larger group now is watching the skies.
(NancyL) ZT: Why the skies? Who POINTED to the skies in the first place? Who IMPLIED that Earth changes were about to occur, from the core of the Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: Star Wars has been pushed outside of any rationale, with a kind of desperation.
(NancyL) ZT: Disbursing the troups around the world, mustering all in the reserves, and pouring money into the military as though an emergeny were right at hand.
(NancyL) ZT: This is an emergency that is SELF WROUGHT, by the Bush Administration, as no new attacks have occurred since 911.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, this reaction is suspect, the skies as a source of danger, ala Near Earth Orbit asteroids fretted about in the news as though they were a NEW threat.
(NancyL) ZT: Movies suddenly taking a different turn, over the past decade or so, with volcanoes spewing up in the middle of cities, asteroids plummeting toward Earth, and the world covered by water for an unexplained reason.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, increasing knowledge of coming Earth changes, somehow involving the skies, from space, is spreading, and no credit to ZetaTalk or other sources of this truth as the elite have done this to THEMSELVES.
(NancyL) ZT: Now, what do those with a firm sense of what is coming DO with this information?
(NancyL) ZT: Primarily, they attempt to find someone who will talk this through with them.
(NancyL) ZT: This usually results in a hard rejection, and depending upon the nature of the human and the culture they live in, they will either hold this to themselves, waiting their opportunity to find a willing ear, or keep searching.
(NancyL) ZT: If they are determined to find others whom they can talk to, they will explore their social environment until they find others who will at least listen.
(NancyL) ZT: Almost invariably, the human will inform their family and close friends of their sense, their worry, and take opportunities to point out when circumstances around them or in the news prove them RIGHT.
(NancyL) ZT: The degree to which they do this is dependent upon the human, whether they are confrontational or comfortable with being considered an outsider, or fearful.
(NancyL) ZT: The more bold among them, often the very young or those without much to lose as they are just starting out in life, may make public assertions.
(NancyL) ZT: And there are the warriors among them, who virtually impale themselves in the battle, risking all to make a statement they feel is important and pressing.
(NancyL) ZT: At the present time, those who spoke out are feeling a bit more comfortable, as world events are proving them NOT wrong, but courageous.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, increasingly, those who fell to the back, into the shadows, saying nothing, are coming forward, finding their voice.
(NancyL) ZT: This trend will continue as the Earth changes become severe, the governments of the world making slips in their announcements.
(NancyL) ZT: Many find courage in a crowd, saying alike, and this eventually becomes an open discussion, with those who would debunk going into hiding, falling silent.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, looking for more Q's and followup.
(MikeO) Freaken' brilliant.
(Dave7) Did the US military use chemical weapons on the Chinese and Nth.Korea in the past? Was one agent called BRUCELLA?
(TheBadAstronomer) Nancy, are you claiming you were the first person to say that there could be danger from space?
(Halo8) Any chance that the new MJ12 may make bold steps to inform the public ?
(dBug) Nancy, do you stand with the prediction of PX sights to begin at March 28/29?
(ChiefSimi) When do the giant humanoids from Nibiru/Planet X get away with their gold shipment? Before or after the passage? Or perhaps when Planet X stops "on its tracks"? With what difficulties do they have to deal with when transporting the shipment?
(InSomNiaC420) Question: During the years after the pole shift, the zeta-human hybrids are supposed to be the next step for mankind.. Correct? So, many years from the shift, will the remaining humans have altered DNA that will change then to be more like the hybrids?
(Earth420) Awesome! As I am telling everyone and their mama, along with newspapers and cards... Would go demonstrate at the White House, but they would probably call me a threat to national security!
(Emmanuel) great response!
(Nenadl) When the Earth changes will become severe, after the PX becomes visible?
(Redeye) great stuff
(Mugada1) a few debunkers droped out then good stuff
(Silk) Are the Zetas still standing by their message of "naked eye, daytime visible" in 40 days?
(ZZMike) so far everyone that i have told about it, think i am foolish
(JP1) give it up Bad Astrono.....
(Phoenix) There seems to have been a roundup of the usual dissident suspects recently in US. Is this preparing for some crowd control?
(Obany) okay this had to be done
(InSomNiaC420) Question:During the years after the pole shift, the zeta-human hybrids are supposed to be the next step for mankind.. Correct? So, many years from the shift, will the remaining humans have altered DNA that will change then to be more like the hybrids?
(TheBadAstronomer) give what up, JP1? Trying to make sure that Ms. Lieder is held accountable for her claims?
(NancyL) Dave7, the Japanese were not kind to the Chinese, etc, so I have no doubt about past abuses.
(Frank) Nancy are there going to be anymore terrorists attacks in america?
(NancyL) Halo, tne New MJ12 is busy all the time :-)
(Earth420) ZZMike, they may think that now, but will be able to handle PX due to the fact that you told them before hand...
(Berten) the effects of PX should they not be more severe by now?
(JP1) posing an inane Q - of course she was not and doesnt claim as much you are reading into stuff go clean your Plossls
(NancyL) dBUG, end of March, start of April, yes. This will be in the evening sky, then into the afternoon, right?
(Mugada1) Bad Astronomer do u have a safe place ready???
(EcclesP) I've found that a positive thing about PX is that it is a great "stopper" to telemarketers.
(NancyL) InSomniak, no altered DNA for normal humans, no.
(Earth420) ZZMike, small sacrafice. They will be able to handle the info better though
(Frank) what if we dont see PX by then?
(PegasiTristan) So, our family is more apt to listen to alternative explanations re:weather, earthquakes once PX is visible?
(InSomNiaC420) k thx
(MikeO) Q: What's the next move of the Bush Regime now that war against Iraq appears impossible, as of this weekend's demonstrations?
(Serbeo) will there be a dirty bomb releaced in USA
(Frank) Nancy are there going to be anymore terror attacks?
(TheBadAstronomer) actually, she implied strongly that she was the first person to make such claims. That is not true
(Earth420) Eccles, I do that with telelmarketers too! ;)
(Emmanuel) NancyL: can the zetas comment on how weeds will fare in the gloom and drizzle of the aftertime?
(NancyL) Berten, the Z's have stated that a lineal increase in earth changes, not an explosion.
(AngelMaryJ) Hey Bad! Will people who feel foolish be held accountable for there own decisions?
(NancyL) For instance, quakes are becoming more noticeable, as they are now larger Richter, etc.
(JP1) uh uh right collimation anyone?
(Ojabun) i find it perverted to use an comet as excuse for end of world, the earth is gonna flip.. cause we are off our own balanse, whole of mankind is sliding away.. and this will lead to countereffects, that's reality... it's perverted to use an PX for it
(Earth420) Plus our last storm here in Southern Calli was amazing...
(Redeye) that Mexican volcano went off big time !
(NancyL) Pegasi, depends upon the person, re listening, as some will simply go harder into denial as it becomes more evident!
(PegasiTristan) ok, ty
(Earth420) And Newcastle killing millions of chickens
(Frank) i need a root canal
(Silk2) but it's not evident at all Nancy
(InSomNiaC420) Ojabun: logic
(TheBadAstronomer) AngelMaryJ: I am not sure what you mean. Peole can make their own decisions, of course. But I want to make sure that they are based on *all* the facts
(Franci66) Nancy, what's the point of disbursing troops around the world when they will be most needed in the US to protect the Elite?
(Johnnie5) will the new MJ12 look for new members after the shift?
(NancyL) Frank, terror attacks are in the hands of man, so prediction unpredictable :-). Free will prevails.
(PegasiTristan) Frank: Ow! those kinda hurt :(
(Ojabun) it's perverted to not be responsible
(Frank) thank you Nancy
(NancyL) Going to take Emanuals Q about weeds and drizzle ....
(Ptomais) millions of chickens are killen every day by the hand of men
(Earth420) Bad As there are other things that can make people believe in the Pshift, not all zetatalk
(InSomNiaC420) Ojabun, have you read through the whole zetatalk? if not.. dont make assumptions about it
(NancyL) Q2: can the zetas comment on how weeds will fare in the gloom and drizzle of the aftertime?
(NancyL) ZT: Climate changes will affect the local plants and animals, insects, fish, bateria in the soil, ALL life will be affected.
(NancyL) ZT: Depending upon the pre-shift climate and conditions, and post-shift climate, all will die and be established eventually from migrations of seeds and traveling bugs and the like, or change gradually.
(NancyL) ZT: An example of a radical change that may explode into something the survivors welcome would be a desert, such as in Mexico, where rains will come and those areas not hard baked will flourish.
(NancyL) ZT: This land is currently tropical, and will continue in that climate, but with more rain!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the life there will not need adjusting, though life adaped to living in the desert may find itself stressed.
(NancyL) ZT: Another example of a radical change that would enhance life would be in Alaska, where permafrost and glaciers will melt so that year round vegetation can flourish.
(NancyL) ZT: This will of course result at first in the local trees and brush becoming bothersome, and local bugs such as mosquitoes a horror.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, some time must pass before a near polar environment changes to become a proper tropical environment.
(NancyL) ZT: But life will not get WORSE for the survivors, if they survive the hungry bears marauding, and those with the foresight to have seeds at hand may find themsleves in a virtual paradise.
(NancyL) ZT: Another example of a climate to the advantage of the survivors are those lands abutting ocean fishing, who are already adjusted to some degree to fishing for food.
(NancyL) ZT: All along the European coastlines there are such fishing villages, and as the water floods inland, they will find their expertise welcomed.
(NancyL) ZT: Siberia will flood, and where today fishing is not the primary source of food, those survivors who follow the water line into the hills will find those with fishing knowledge among them treasured, and find their struggle for food NO WORSE than today when they have a harse climate, a short summer, in which to grow their own crops.
(NancyL) ZT: Hardy folk, used to gleaning what they can on their own, they will adapt and ENJOY the new climate they find themselves in, the long coastline they can now explore, and the many peoples of the world they will encounter
(NancyL) ZT: Examples of climate changes that will spell death for survivors are of course in India, which will drown, and the Bulge of Brazil, which will freeze, or those trapped on islands that will go under the waves so they have no place to flee.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, those living close to the new polar regions may find themselves devastated, if they are not prepared for the cold.
(NancyL) ZT: Since drizzle, continuous drizzle, has been predicted for the world for some 25 years, during the time when volcanic gloom will also prevail and the clouds lie close to the ground, this will also be a factor.
(NancyL) ZT: Most plants that like strong sun, or shade, will stuggle along in an adverse setting, simply giving way to OTHER plants that flourish, being pushed out.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, if there are no competitors, the existing plants will struggle on, or attempt to.
(NancyL) ZT: If there ARE competitors, then survivors should simply change their diet!
(NancyL) ZT:We would suggest that those intent on surviving analyze their target climate, including likely rainfall and volcanic gloom, and plan accordingly.
(NancyL) ZT: Store seeds and livestock or fish FOR the target climate! Take a hand in establishing new fauna and domesticated animals.
(NancyL) ZT: This would include weeds, as they are often hardy, with domesticated crops being bred for high produce, not hardiness.
(NancyL) ZT: Weeds may not be welcomed NOW, in fact excluded or prohibited, but in the Aftertime be THE most likely produce.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, think of the TARGET, and see how well your local food sources will do. If well, then you are fortunate, if not, then aggressively plan FOR the target.
(NancyL) ZT: Take responsibility for your survival, your Aftertime living, and no appologizes!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(NancyL) And looiking for the next Q.
(Serbeo) The NY fish and game recomend that 0 fish be eaten in lake Ontario.How long untill it will it be safe to eat the fish after the shift?
(Dave7) Will Mosquitoes carry diseases in the Aftertime as they have in the past?
(ZooSpecimen) "mosquitoes a horror" ?! Yikes! How bad will the biting insect populations get? What places will be the worst? Will people be driven mad by them?
(Gyflex) how many miles from the Bulge of Brazil will the new polar region (new north pole) extend?
(Earth420) China flu outbreak... Man made?
(Steve) Nancy, what is NASA planning now that the shuttle event has happened?
(N18) Did the zeta meant to say continuous drizzle for 25 years?
(Silk2) Can the Zetas comment on their coordinates for March 3 being off 2 degrees from what was predited a few years ago?
(AngelMaryJ) The Case for domestic dogs and cats; rats, cyotes, cougars, bears. (and bunnies) All hungry burrowing and good swimmers.(maybe bunnies don't swim. ?)
(EcclesP) Nancy: Would it be beyond the Rules of Engagement if we were to get some Zetan help in creating and distributing a detailed, ZT-inspired Future Map of the World before the PS?
(Tizza) will cyclonic winds play a big part in dispersing native seed to new areas?
(NancyL) Serbeo, to some degree, you will eat what you need to in order to not starve.
(Tied2) NANCY How long will it take (after the shift) for the Oceans to reach the full 675 feet above there present level?
(HungarianGenius) Buda mountaine in Hungary will be safe in the shift time?
(Halo8) 2 years
(NancyL) But I think that the rains, the flooding, the ripped St. Lawrence, may clean out a lot of pollution.
(Franci66) what radical changes will be seen in Europe? no virtual paradise here?
(HungarianGenius) Can Zetas say about Hungary save locations?
(NancyL) Dave7, yes, disease not change, BUT, in the leap (in 100 years or so) to 4th Density, mosquitoes are going to be left behind :-)
(Earth420) No where is really safe if you think about it
(Berten) what about western Europe?
(Emmanuel) so i guess if u know the climate of the place ur chosing to locate to, you should factor in the climate after the pole shift
(NancyL) Zoo, the mosquitoes in Alaska are a horror now!
(Woogles) there is a safe loc doc on the ZT site
(dBug) Nancy, how you make the "channeling" with the Zetas ? Whatīs the process?
(NancyL) N18, yes, re 25 years, what did I typo?
(HungarianGenius) in the safe locations document lot about western Europe
(HungarianGenius) but very little about Hungary
(Emmanuel) so u can pick the right kind of weeds that will grow well in that climate
(Redeye) berten, read Safe Locations doc
(Obany) dBug: it's no channeling and it has been fully explained on zetatalk
(HungarianGenius) yes, but no specific places about Hungary
(NancyL) Silk, don't you think it absolutley amazing that 5+ year ago they were SO CLOSE! Would that NASA could function like that!
(HungarianGenius) not like US
(Earth420) Emmanuel, yes... some good ideas I already knew!
(NancyL) Bet they are jealous!
(HungarianGenius) where very big city
(kreartor) Question: what do zetas think about preparing for the aftertime not just worrying about safe areas and things like that but working hard to improve our inner spiritual level
(Silk2) No, not at all Nancy, shows an error of great magnitude, astronomically
(Emmanuel) Earth420: do u have any ideas about
(Johnnie5) i wish i could think of a good question.
(NancyL) Taking Kreartor Q as Q3 ...
(NancyL) Q3: what do zetas think about preparing for the aftertime not just worrying about safe areas and things like that but working hard to improve our inner spiritual level
(NancyL) ZT: Many humans who are currently supported in their physical needs by the farming communities are agast at the prospect of being thrown on their resources in the Aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: The populations in the cities of the world, and in many towns fringed by farming communities, are utterly unfamiliar with step one of feeding oneself.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, New Age talk about the world evading the pole shift if all hold hands and fervently wish it to be so, or if all change their ways and become STO overnight, are popular with these folks.
(NancyL) ZT: They simply don't know what else to do, where else to start, and the road seems too long for them to walk, otherwise.
(NancyL) ZT: Of course, none of this will work, as we have explained.
(NancyL) ZT: It is a palliative, a tranquilizer, to be taken so one does not worry until the last minute.
(NancyL) ZT: If this is your intent, to avoid thinking about it, or comfort yourself with a fairy tale, then so be it, but rescue will not happen.
(NancyL) ZT: Does it happen today, to those starving stick children in Africa? Does it happen today when a Cyclone roars into Bangladesh, drowning families and sweeping the housing out to sea?
(NancyL) ZT: Does it happen today to those dying in agony with AIDS, or going blind because insects have put parasites into their eyes, mass disease ignored by comfortable industrialized countries?
(NancyL) ZT: If such relief were so easy to attain, that wishing it so would make it happen, or appealing to the populace to do better would find a ready ear, then what is stopping this from happening TODAY?
(NancyL) ZT: Of course, loving one another, and increasing this tendency, should be encouraged, but frankly MOST who are not spiritually mature and firmly in this orientation will find it hard to move in that direction under trying times.
(NancyL) ZT: Each will be more concerned about themselves, finding their comfort increasingly eroding, and no avenue of relief in sight!
(NancyL) ZT: Given this, irritability will increase, demands, hoarding, and fights.
(NancyL) ZT: Those already inclined to care for others will not change, but may find they need to aggressively prioritize their time and resources.
(NancyL) ZT: This will be misinterpreted as meanness, by those used to demanding attention from these overworked souls, but it is concern for the greater good that is at the fore.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, for those at a lose as to what to do, how to prepare for the future, we suggest NOT turning to wishful thinking, but even at this late date going camping, reading survival books, and at least STARTING.
(NancyL) ZT: They will in any case find they must do this, if they survive, and will regret time lost in wishful thinking.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter and end of hour, it looks like.
(PegasiTristan) Question: What do the Z's recommend to folks who have no income (re:jobless) and need to get to their safe place when the need arises? Also, could the Z's comment more on the "Prime Target" part of ZetaTalk? http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c42.htm More clues, etc.?
(ZooSpecimen) Who is the Z's primarily addressing their answers and statments too, is it the undecided or the STO's?
(MikeO) It's only in the last 200 years that growers have made a distinction between vegetables and weeds. Before that, vegetables and weeds were lumped together as "things that grow and you can eat".
(Earth420) Awesome Nancy/Zs....
(Tekk) Whew! The Zetas can be 900-pound guerillas if they have to!
(AngelMaryJ) How does this relate to soul harvest? Isn't that a sort of rescue from marginal (or worse) survival? (NOT CONDONING ANYTHING LIKE SUICIDE)
(Earth420) Mike O, and hemp was prohibited
(dBug) Nancy, whatīs the relation between the year 2012 (mayan calendar), 5th dimension and the pole shift?
(Emmanuel) awesome session
(NancyL) I'd like to point anyone unaware to new sci.astro posting on the ZT web site http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use02153.htm
(Obany) the earth will enter 4th density, not the 5th
(HungarianGenius) will be foods in hungary?
(Silk2) more spamming of sci.astro, Nancy?
(NancyL) Also, the Trends page at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy6.htm
(Dim) Thank you Nancy and Zetas.
(HungarianGenius) 2 million people lives in Budapest
(Obany) Silk2: HUSH
(HungarianGenius) can zetas say about Budapest?
(Earth420) Thank you Nancy/Zs... To all the homies, skate the hate, and tell everyone!
(HungarianGenius) like they said about big US cities too?
(MikeO) A brilliant 2+ hours.
(NancyL) Bottom line, back in Sep the entire PX complex (corpus, moons, debris, tail, dust) was a dot.
(PegasiTristan) It was fun!
(Ptomais) us are hegemon
(NancyL) Then the dot got larger and brighter.
(Silk2) J William, I see you circled more noise on the Feb 7 images
(dBug) Another thing...I think that we are what we think... so wishful think can save you... and just donīt forget about karma and conscience level... All what we are talking here is crazy for so many (sadly).
(Silk2) and used a sum, after saying a median was better
(NancyL) Then a haze of tail was evident in pixel analysis, but the dot of the corpus seems to plateau.
(Obany) if you wan to discuss Silk then do it in a private chat.. NOT HERE
(Silk2) Not a single new objct on the Feb 7 images Nancy, nada
(NancyL) Then swirls of tail could be seen, even splotches when they overlapped, but still no moons evident individually.
(HungarianGenius) can you Nancy say Budapest will be safe or Duna will flooding?
(MikeO) And cheers to the millions of people around the world who today stood up to the Bush/Cheney/Sharon/oil cabal.
(PegasiTristan) MikeO: Heroes!!
(NancyL) Then the moons could be counted, looking like astreroid, 2, then 12, then 24, then 27, then 29, now too many to count almost.
(Dim) Thank you Obany!
(HungarianGenius) Nancy do you have 1 word fro Budapest? 2 millon speople?
(Cos) Mr. OberBany
(NancyL) Px rivaling existing stars on the chart, now the moons in that category too.
(SteveAfk) Just got back from peace rally in Vancouver
(Obany) hi SteveH
(Obany) and was it a good one?
(Ptomais) great Steve
(Reticuli) Steve: how many people were there ?
(SteveH) yes, about 40,000 people
(HungarianGenius) 1 word for Budapest?
(NancyL) Now we are finding that the corpus, the Px body and close hugging dust cloud, though appearing dimmer overall (like M31 which is Mag 3+ but hardly seen in the night sky) is LARGER in pixel count.
(Manzour) Great Obany, she was too noisy ;)
(Ptomais) 70.000 men, women and children in Amsterdam
(NancyL) So you must consider that the WHOLE was included in the dot, last Sept/Oct, but now is spread out across a wide area.
(N18) NancyL: Regarding Q3. You suggested that we are going to have drizzle for 25 yesrs. Here is what you typed: ZT: Since drizzle, continuous drizzle, has been predicted for the world for some 25 years, during the time when volcanic gloom w
(Dim) Silk is like one of those little barking dogs.
(NancyL) Last Sep you could not see the tail or moons, and now can count them.
(HungarianGenius) was demonstration in Budapest too
(Obany) i heard about 35.000 so was it even more Ptomais ?
(Olhippie) Would the Zetas give advice to the "locals" in Carolina in re to how to "deal" with the elite? Should we arm ourselves?
(Ptomais) largest manifestation since the 70's
(Jeremy) Nancy: I noticed about 4 train derailments occurred in North America in the past few days. Kind of coincidental I think..
(NancyL) I think looking at the Trend page /nancy6.htm shows it all on one screen, as the dates overlap and the trends are obvious!
(NancyL) Go look!
(HungarianGenius) Nancy Could you ask the Zetas to add new cities to Safe locations document?
(HungarianGenius) like 2 million Budapest?
(Ptomais) Obany: local authorities estimane a number of 70.000 people
(NancyL) SteveH! Taking his dancing shoes off!
(SteveH) good job on that chart Nancy, lots of work you put in there!
(Berten) that loc doc needs an update!
(NancyL) I'm so happy love has arrived in Vancouver! Could not have happened to a more deserving guy!
(HungarianGenius) Do You hear Nancy?
(HungarianGenius) Pleas Lady
(SteveH) Nancy, yes thank God. Ballroom dancing is not my favorite thing hehe
(Obany) Ptomais: that's better i think
(HungarianGenius) Are You here Nancy?
(Ojabun) you very positive Nancy, you never mention that all ppl will turn into savage monsters soon they without a supermarket or any order
(NancyL) N18, I think ZT did say 25 years of drizzle, many years anyway. Volcanic gloom in general 25 years, and this is related to the atmosphere rebuilding, being close to the ground, so we walk in clouds to some degree.
(Ojabun) the guys with guns will eat
(HungarianGenius) Nancy you make a great job! Thank you
(NancyL) N18, I will get the Z's to quickly respond to that:
(NancyL) ZT to N18: There is a nexus between volcanic gloom and the continuous drizzle we have predicted in the Aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: The volcanic gloom, where wafted into the upper atmosphere, is less devastating than when held close to the ground, but this is what will be occurring.
(NancyL) ZT: The rains predicted DURING the pole shift, the deluges, are a result of the hurrican force winds that wipe over the oceans and then inland.
(NancyL) ZT: And this process, after the existing poles melt and the land masses shrink, will continue to some degree, as ocean breezes will be close to land.
(NancyL) ZT: Fewer deserts, due to less isolation from water drenched breezes.
(NancyL) ZT: Add to this that the atmosphere is low, and the volcanic dust can only rise to hgh.
(NancyL) ZT: It is no secret that rain often is incited by dust, water forming around a particle, and this process will be in place WORLDWIDE.
(NancyL) ZT: It is the rain, to some degree, which cleans the air of the fine volcanic dust that will blow about, otherwise, seemingly endlessly.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is a relationship, the 25 years we have predicted for volcanic gloom, also being in place for continuous drizzle.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not to say that survivors must live in their raincoats, as this will be a REDUCING phenomena, over the 25 years.
(NancyL) End ZT to N18.
(HBO) NancyL, do the Zetas vbelieve that Bush will initiate acts of terrorism against the USA in order to order invasion of Iraq, as well as initiate martial law in major US cities?
(NancyL) Good Q :-) N18.
(PegasiTristan) Ojabun: Maybe the 'guys with guns' wont be able to find the Good Folk. ;o)
(Tekk) sounds like fun
(Ojabun) that what Nostra says also, it will rain blood, milk and iron
(Cosmic) NancyL, you need help
(N18) NancyL: Thanks to you and the zetas
(NancyL) HBO, this was addressed in the last chat, so check the logs as I will rush to get them up by early tomorrow.
(PegasiTristan) Cosmic: Yer in denial
(NancyL) Folks, I'm pooped, and will say goodnight.
(Obany) Nancy doesn't need any help whatsoever
(dBug) Nancy, whatīs the relation between the year 2012 (Mayan calendar), 5th dimension and the pole shift?
(NancyL) Thank you all for attending and inspiring great ZetaTalk.
(Ojabun) Nancy is way too positive.. Nostra says those that surfive the floods and quakes, will dy on the mountaintops
(Obany) dBug: didnd't you read my comment earlier on ...
(woofferbr) Can someone send me the logs? Arrived too late... :(
(Obany) well this is #zetatalk not #nostratalk
(NancyL) Thanks to our hard working cops, who put up with the yattering crowd and are very fair while trying to be firm.
(Ojabun) only those entlighted will surfive
(Ojabun) only the righteoous ppl that are able to reach superhuman state
(NancyL) Goodnight all!
(JWilliam) ojabun: You're to negative, and that won't help you survive ;o)
(Ojabun) will surfive
Session Close: Sat Feb 15 17:23:56 2003