Session Start: Sat Dec 07 15:55:16 2002
(NancyL) Glory, no one here!
(Torbj) I meant 188.8.131.52
(NancyL) Oops, not to insult the loyal crowd (JWilliam, Jurian, MikeAus, etc)
(Torbj) it used to be "Naalwiik...or something
(Spanky) cuz zetatalk is much earlier
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Steve has taken another set of images, in wee hours of Dec 4th, at Dec 6th Coordinates.
(Obany) Nancy it's because of a channel mode, there are 69 people in fact in the channel
(Obany) it just seems that there are no others
(NancyL) These are on the web, linked from TEAM page at ../teams/tteam342.htm
(MikeAus) Steve's image showing the tail was great!
(IaNZ) Hi from NZ Nancy, ist time here!
(SteveH) I posted to sci.astro Nancy, gave Tholen a little jab too
(NancyL) The big finding, the Red Personal is HUGE, compared to prior imaging sessions, though the results of pixel analysis as to confirmed relative brightness not yet known.
(TerrorDactyl) can we see these in JPEG format?
(JWilliam) I'm workin on it ;o)
(Spanky) i wonder if the image of a big red santa and his reindeer is a repressed spiritual image of the 12th :)
(MikeAus) IaNZ.. you from Auckland?
(NancyL) I would also love to have the guy who did up the math on the relative SIZE of Px in Sep, for the Sep 15th Coordinates, gen up the relative size for Dec, Jan, Feb, etc.
(NancyL) Being math challenged, I'd appreciate this help ...
(IaNZ) No, from Bay of Plenty..
(SteveH) I think it must have moved a fair distance over the last few weeks
(NancyL) Obany, OH! I didn't know about channel mode.
(MikeAus) ah, nice spot :)
(NancyL) I have no agenda, so am willing to collect one. Q's?
(MikeAus) I have rellies in NZ
(Jeremy) I've got one actually..
(IaNZ) And not too close to the sea!
(SteveH) Nancy, you said months ago Dec would be good viewing and you were right big time!
(MikeAus) when is it appropriate to stop an STS person from hurting others?
(TakeMeHome) can you tell us why are there not more earth changes if the planet is this close now? how close is it?
(MikeAus) ie. by hurting THEM?
(NancyL) MikeAus, yes, the tail thingie was the biggie last time, as it was moving so rapidly horizontally. This time, the size increase is the biggie.
(Phoenix) Q: Do the hybrids have a name for themselves, such as we call ourselves people?
(TWright) Is Planet X visible with a standard telescope?????
(MikeAus) yep,great pics!
(NancyL) SteveH :-) I'll go collect that posting later, and look for it.
(NancyL) Terror, have you checked the link I just posted? As to what images are there?
(Jeremy) Nancy: ZT says one of the countdown sighs to the pole shift will be the moaning of the earth? Can the Zetas elaborate on this; in particular will the constant humming be harmful to most peoples ears, given that Moses reported went deaf during the previous shift
(TerrorDactyl) post agin didnt see it please
(S7L) SteveH: what about other possible explanations such as a variable star, or even an asteroid that just happened to hit the spot? I mean, assuming there *is* something real at that spot. I guess it looks a little like an astronomic object this time.
(MikeAus) get ear plugs ;)
(Spanky) here's a q.: what will the MiB do during the pole shift? will they come out to scavange? was it STS aliens that told them to go to the surface to intimidate humans in the first place?
(Domicile1) Q: Since wind is mainly due to uneven heating of the Earth's surface, will uniform, total cloud cover affect wind prospects?
(Redeye) Q. in U.K. recently it was announced that the stockpile order of smallpox vacciness had been doubled to 80million so a mass innoculation could be possible to prevent terrorist attacks. could the zetas comment on this ?
(Spanky) caves are more vulnerable than the surface, remember...
(SteveH) S7L, it's at the coordinates given by the Z's from months ago. What are the odds?
(NancyL) Jeremey Q accepted re Countdown.
(Jeremy) Nancy: Great :)
(S7L) SteveH: well, you have been photographing sky for months, and so far you've had pixel defects.
(JWilliam) 6 times at the coordinates ;o)
(MikeAus) Nancy: our crop losses are so bad, Australia is going to have to IMPORT grain
(SteveH) The white candidate is exactly at the Dec 6 coordinates, haven't you been following previous imaging?
(Spanky) by crikey!
(S7L) this time it does look like there was an astronomic object. I say it's about chance you could hit something that you won't find on the DSS.
(NancyL) TakeMeHome Q accepted, re Earth Changes as Signs.
(Jeremy) and everyone else
(SteveH) S7L, no pixel defects
(S7L) SteveH: the "white persona" and "red persona" are not astronomic science
(TWright) SteveH: Is Planet X visible with a standard telescope?????
(Sundar) Nancy, will humanity in aftertime will have scientific temper apart from STO orientation (or) will they be beaten down and lost hope
(MikeAus) S7L-so the science is wrong!
(Oliver) Nancy can the zeta's say whether or not the recent cruise ship sickness were caused by chem trails or some NWO action?
(NancyL) S7L :-) How about these round noise and variable stars apprearing JUST where the Z's said they wouuld, MOVING per the Coordiantes, and red light bending per the direction, angle, etc. as described by the Zetas!
(S7L) MikeAus: bah. No, it's not. Not in something like this. It's Nancy who is wrong. But I'm curious about this latest set of pictures nevertheless.
(Beta) Nancy: What is the relationship between PX distance & earth changes-ie will it only get very serious in the last month when PX is inside the solar system?
(SteveH) S7L, get real!
(S7L) NancyL: that is misrepresentation of your position. You give positions to sub-arcsecond precision and say "look aroudn"
(JWilliam) When something new comes along that doesn't conform to known science. Then we must question science, or go into denial.
(NancyL) S7L, when the planet is in the sky, and rotation stopping, will have ALTERNATE EXPLANATIONS, because he is your friend, and thinks clearly!
(S7L) you can claim *any* spot anywhere in the images to be your planet.
(S7L) There is no issue of "right on" here.
(MikeAus) S7L: the Zetas have said that human science cannot account for PX's movement
(S7L) NancyL: who will have?
(S7L) you forgot the name.
(Spanky) Nancy: have the niburians found a way to get back and forth BETWEEN shifts with faster propulsion? is this one reason they gave up on Earth?
(SteveH) S7L, your words are ringing hollow!
(S7L) MikeAus: well, I don't buy that. I mean, really. The zetan predictions are simply way off from what is even possible.
(EcclesP) Nancy: I like beta's question. With PX roughly 18 billion miles away, will the earth changes increase exponentially into May as PX nears?
(NancyL) Sundar, losing hope is a personal reaction, some will, some won't, but Q accepted by the Z's.
(MikeAus) possible in terms of limited,flawed human science
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy i just looked at the bmp file you linked to but i cant see a tail
(IaNZ) Nancy/ZT Q What will the wind direction be at the equator post PS? Currently the equator has doldrums.
(SteveH) S7L, go talk about your doubts on sci.astro. I'm sure your opinion would be greatly appreciated there
(Spanky) the brightest minds said that flight was impossible, until a couple of mechanics out in the middle of nowhere built a plane at Kitty Hawk
(Oliver) Nancy can the zeta's say whether or not the recent cruise ship sickness were caused by chem trails or some NWO action?
(Samsara2003) S7L: Considering that 100 years ago - Aerodynamics and the possibility of flight was proved impossible by mathamaticians of the day, I do not give such arguments much creedence
(S7L) SteveH: well, you just have no idea how to process images. I mean, almost all the images in the past show little worms that come from improper dark substraction and like. I mean, that's no image processing.
(Jeremy) S7L: Reserve your judgement for the forthcoming Dec 6 images
(NancyL) S7L is hanging out here on his Saturday just because he's curious. You are in DENIAL, and don't serve yourself or others well in that mode.
(Ummite) NancyL: If United nation inspector say that is no prob in irak do american will start the war against the resolution of U.N
(TWright) SteveH: Is it possible to see Planet X with a standard telescope?????
(NancyL) I'm going to start the list of Q's, as the hour is here ...
(Gyflex) will it now be possible to look at the coordinates and see Px even if you do not have the means to record the images and do an analysis?
(Sundar) knowing a..z may not be as good as knowing poetry, but it is atleast better
(NancyL) Q on cruise sickness accepted also.
(NancyL) COUNTDOWN SIGN
(NancyL) 1. ZT says one of the countdown sighs to the pole shift will be the moaning of the earth? Can the Zetas elaborate on this; in particular will the constant humming be harmful to most peoples ears, given that Moses reported went deaf during the previous shift
(NancyL) ZT: The moaning of the Earth is akin to material snapping, screaching rock strata pulling across other strata, and vibrations of rock strata under tentsion.
(NancyL) ZT: Many sensitive people report becoming ill prior to earthquakes due to similar vibrations, not particularly heard, but felt by the body in any case.
(NancyL) ZT: In similar manner, many MORE humans will feel ill during the week of rotation stoppage, and not just due to the stress of the moment, but due to vibrations in the underlying rock strata.
(NancyL) ZT: Is this simply a motion, or perhaps a noise? No, as pressure on rock results in MORE than motion or the noise that can result when such motion translates to moving air, thus noise.
(NancyL) ZT: It has been reported that pending quakes can be sensed by radio, as static on the radio increases just prior to a quake, by hours or days.
(NancyL) ZT: Pets likewise get up and move about, sensing something, as do farm animals, but this is not something their human owners can describe, not a sound or a sight seen.
(NancyL) ZT: Rock strata, under pressure, changes the EMISSIONS, electrons, magnetic fields, and other subatomic particle flows mankind is utterly unaware of but which nonetheless exist.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, and it seems that deaf people will be sensing this as well as non-deaf.
(RnThomas) Nancy: during the aftertime, can simple electricifcation of body tissues (eg: Beck Protocols) help us to stay healthy from virus and blight of the aftertime.
(Obany) RnThomas: not a follow up question
(TakeMeHome) is this going tpo
(NancyL) RnThomas, don't rely on false promises of medical miracles not proven, etc.
(TakeMeHome) sorry - is this going to have an effect on pregnant women going into labour?!
(MikeAus) ie. coolloidal silver.....probably does nothing
(NancyL) TakeMeHome, I pity the pregnant women, or those with newborns, for sure!
(NancyL) OK, Q2 ...
(ZetaCurious) it soundslike the earth is the one going into labor
(NancyL) COUNTDOWN SIGN
(NancyL) 2. Can you tell us why are there not more earth changes if the planet is this close now? How close is it?
(NancyL) ZT: Many who are well aware that our predictions on the weather changes, and how they would affect crops, are UTTERLY true, still point to a grocery store with food stocks and claim them all false.
(NancyL) ZT: The weather affect on crops clicked in during the year predicted, 2000, and were reported in the media, then HUSHED, and only now leaking out as to the extent of this as the establishment is busy with their own worries.
(NancyL) ZT: Did we predict that ALL humans EVERYWHERE would be starving, not a crumb to eat? Hardly, but this is the critera placed on those who cling to denial.
(NancyL) ZT: As long as a cracker is available to be eaten, somewhere on Earth, our predictions is falst.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, our prediction that quakes would increase in both Richter and frequency, in a lineal manner, has been proven true only recently, as the quake increase has been large enough to come to NOTICE.
(NancyL) ZT: We also predicted that under reporting would occur, and quakes in remote places simply not reported, which has also come to light very recently.
(NancyL) ZT: As long as the establishment dropped quakes from the database, or under reported, or gave overview statistics NOT supported by the actual quakes, we were accused of having given false predictions by those desperate to deny.
(NancyL) ZT: And in linke manner, even though we have reported that this inbound planet will approach during the last months, that quake increases will continue to be lineal, not exponential, and tides higher than normal, not flooding inland in towering waves, the desperate to deny want certainy and drama.
(NancyL) ZT: The effects of the pole shift are MAGNETIC, and occur during passage.
(NancyL) ZT: Prior to the passage, the effect of the inbound planet is like one bug tugging in a spider web, to another bug caught elsewhere in the web.
(NancyL) ZT: There IS reaction, even if the two bugs are remote, and if the one bug were to be able to crawl about, closer to the trapped bug, the vibrations and effect on the trapped bug would be felt more strongly.
(NancyL) ZT: But nonetheless, we are talking, in the bug/web analogy, about twiching in the web, vibrations, unless and until the traveling bug ARRIVES at the trapped bu.
(NancyL) ZT: Then the drama begins! Flailing legs! Buzzing wings! Both bugs injuring each other in their frantic interaction, perhaps.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it is at the MOMENT OF PASSAGE that the Earth most reacts, and prior to this, it is twitching, so to speak.
(NancyL) ZT: The earthquake plates locked down, as the Earth compressed, due to a mechanism mankind does not understand.
(NancyL) ZT: This was demonstrated in the increase in deep quake, in prior decades.
(NancyL) ZT: ONce the plates were locked down, surface quakes richochet'd to other surface plates, the domino effect that manifested in 1999, per our predictions.
(NancyL) ZT: Now the increase in quakes is manifesting to public notice. What does all this indicate about the Earth's reaction to the inbound planet?
(Obany) !kick silk just in case
(NancyL) ZT: The CORE is responsible for this, as the changes in patterns in the swirling core are manifested in increased volcano activity, and increased quakes as the plates, as we have recently described, are showing the SHIFT pattern now, not just a domino effect.
(NancyL) ZT: The stress on the plates during the shift will be such that the Pacific will shorten, the Atlantic widen, and earth changes on the surface are now showing this in stretched earth along the Atlantic, quake reverberations along the Pacific.
(NancyL) ZT: How will this change, in the next months? MORE, and STRONGER, such that cities will become problematic to live in, and obsessed with cleaning up the last quake damange and horrifically worrried about the nEXT/
(NancyL) ZT: The increased core swirling, by a core MOST responsive to the apporach of a magnetic giant into the neighborhood, also is heating the earth's plates, causing melting poles, melting glaciers, and rising seas.
(NancyL) ZT: This is occurring, but under reported at present,but like the under reported quakes will BURST into the public eye when cities along coastlines are inundeated by severl feet of water, their streest awash.
(NancyL) ZT: HOw will this change in the months going into the shift? HIGHER tides, more inundations, and more frantic city managers.
(NancyL) ZT: Until the planet hoves into view, is approaching so rapidly that the earth is slowing by minutes and then hours a day, and then STOPS in rotation, there will not be any more than lineal increases in what we have described.
(NancyL) ZT: Thos who want a horn to blow, certainty, and are demanding this, are simply not processing information. They are children, wanting black and white and unable to be comfortable when having to think for themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: They are lost, during the shift, in any case, and will be found wandering around, lost, afterwards, demanding of some stranger that certainly be brought into their lives.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(Torbj) use this link if you want the "untuched" earthquake data.. http://seismo.ethz.ch/redpuma/redpuma_ami_list.html
(Nomis) Nancy What is with the RED and WHITE candidates on Steve`s new pictures?? Any answers from the Zetas to the images??? See we really PlanetX???? Thx
(EcclesP) Thanks, Nancy & the Zetas for clarifying the lineal versus exponential increase over time.
(Inkpen) Nancy: could changes in subatomic partical fields, due to rock strata pressure/movement, cause what is seen in the bermuda triangle to occure in other parts of the world? And how will the approch of planet x effect this?
(Oliver) The Zeta's have stated the the Atlantic will stretch and the Pacific will compress, is there anyway to tell how much? (in miles or feet)
(Gary) Bugs in web. Great analogy.
(Stewart) how much months until cities are effected significantly? can u give a figure?
(MikeAus) if there's a bug in a web it's Cunningham,caught in his own web of lies
(NancyL) Nomis, did you READ the page referenced? The Zeta Confirm link? Please do read!!! ../teams/tteam342.htm as this is why we PUT this on the web for you!
(Obany) Stewart: well prepared even now... that's what I can say
(Yggdrasil) im in New Mexico
(Yggdrasil) theres a special woman in my life I want her to be safe
(NancyL) ZT to Inkpen: the Bermuda Triangle and other places where 4th Density is occasionally achieved due to outbursts from the core, will NOT increase in activity during this time.
(Inkpen) thanx Nancy
(NancyL) ZT: The subatomic particles involves are NOT increased by mechanical motion of other matter.
(NancyL) End ZT to Inkpen.
(AGreenspan) Why are wheat, corn and soybeans at historically low prices if there are any shortages (check the Futures Markets)
(N18) How close is PX now?
(NancyL) Oliver, see the New Geo, the Scripted Drama page in Pole Shift.
(NancyL) Are you talking by prior to the shift? Not by much.
(Yggdrasil) does anyone know about the gravity theory here?
(Nomis) Nancy Yes I have read it! But why there are so many "candidates"?? The coordinates are very exactX,XXXXX???!
(Phoenix) Was the collapse of a building under construction in San Antonio, TX this week related to predicted undersupport shifting?
(Obany) N18: why do you want to know, will knowing about how far the planet is, will help you to prepare?
(MikeAus) Greenspan...you TRUST this info?
(NancyL) AGreen, do you think the Stock Market is articificially maintained? All indicators DOWN but it goes UP?
(NancyL) Ever heard of price fixing?
(NancyL) Behind the scenes?
(Torbj) Can Z:ts tell me if my "hunch" of this, our universe, is "within" or is a "cube"... going in to a new "vibrational field" within a bigger "cube" is right?....this may sound nutīs, but I dont know of a better way to put it in English..ī
(NancyL) Phoenix, didn't hear of this but maybe. I would anticipate cities along the East Coast, though, going first.
(JWilliam) AG: actually wheat is UP over last year.
(AGreenspan) Atrificially pumping the stock market is NOT the same as doing so in the Commodities Markets which are huge.
(Stewart) over how many days does the earth rotation start to slow then stop?
(NancyL) Torbj, to abstract for todays worries, etc. (Heavens!)
(NancyL) OK, Q3 ...
(NancyL) CIVILIZATION LOST
(NancyL) 1. Will humanity in aftertime will have scientific temper apart from STO orientation (or) will they be beaten down and lost hope
(NancyL) ZT: During every pole shift, civilization was devastated, and advances lost.
(NancyL) ZT: The great cities of China, uncovered now and then under farmers fields, are a mystery.
(NancyL) ZT: What caused them to disappear? Illness? war?
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, the Myan and Incan ruins, like Egypt after the Jewish Exodus times, a mystery.
(NancyL) ZT: As Egypt recovered, this is muted, but for CENTURIES these area had no civilization save that caried by the survivors, carried down from famly to family.
(NancyL) ZT: The extend that a cilviization survives is dependent upon location, primarily, as if climate changes are devastating then simple survivla supplants attending to the trappings of civilization, and thus the loss.
(NancyL) ZT: Where one is concerned with eating, a written language or mathematics are the lesser, and are not passed on.
(NancyL) ZT: Primitive cultures pass forward information in stories, myths, often highly truthful, and these can be told in the evening, by the fire, to sleepy children by exhuasted parents or oldsters, as they can scarse do otherwise with their time.
(NancyL) ZT: But the written language, and technological skills, requires SPARE time, and this is what disappears during such times.
(NancyL) ZT: IN Egypt, during the last shift, their climate change was mild, the survivors did not have to scatter far, and thus their civilization recouped.
(NancyL) ZT: In the forthcoming shift, such civilizations as in India will disappear, except as they are carried about by their citizens in other lands.
(NancyL) ZT: There, they will be in the minority, and will likely attend to more pressing matters.
(NancyL) ZT: In Europe where islands will result, and the climate improve to be more mild, the many languages and education level likely to remain, be passed on to children, and perhaps even result in MORE languages than present due to isolation on islands!
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated, the issue of mankind returing to the technology of today is NOT simply the capability of man, as in the past, mankind would recoup and build again.
(NancyL) ZT: Circumstances are different this time, not simply dependent upon spare time, or the ability to return to manufacturing of parts, and holding schools to educate survivors.
(NancyL) ZT: With the exception of KNOWLEDGE, the techonolgical society is unlike to recoup, as parts and manufacturing support are requried, and simply will NOT take precedence over starvation.
(NancyL) ZT: Complex technology require complex manufacturing, and specialized skills increase the stockholder and owner return on investment, but bode ill for reouping the process in the Aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: A specilist, dead, can defeat the entire process.
(NancyL) ZT: What will doom mankind, in his ambitions to restore is current perch on the mountain tops, his technological tools and toys, is NOT the simply process by which mankind rebuilds after a pole shift, but the changes that will be effected THIS time.
(NancyL) ZT: Integration with alien cultures, high tech cultures, NOT mankinds technology by alien, will occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Those individuals uncomfortable with this interaction will be removed from Earth, to setup their kingdoms in STS worlds, or continue their orientation deliberateions on a new planet, as water creatures.
(NancyL) ZT: Those left will be the sorts who do NOT want to punish the othes in the group, so will welcome alien help, as these STO souls will be those reincarnating here on Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, because mankinds technology will be PREEMTED by alien technology, mankinds technology will be put aside as the lesser, and discarded.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Stewart) how long b4 we are integrated with the alien cultures - immediately or years?
(HBO) how many cycles of PX have there been since one of next year's predicted magnitude and devestation?
(Monk) Q:After the poleshift will we be able to live off the land or will we have to stock up on food to survive?
(Jeremy) Nancy: ZT says the Internet will function after the shift in certain locales, but since PCs cannot be easily replaced or repaired during the Aftertime, does that imply the internet will eventually fizzle out??
(Mike-O) Did past civilizations on earth have television, air travel, computers, or perhaps technology more advanced than ours?
(Spanky) will some Earth souls go to the 12th planet as well as the octopus world?
(NancyL) ZT to MikeO: Rumors of Atlantis aside, mankind did NOT achieve advances beyond what they hold today, in the past.
(Spanky) were the Chinese cities built and ruled by the chinese themselves, or by the 12th planet hominoids?
(JimW) It seems like the preminent challenge for us all will be the production of food. What can we expect, in this regard, in relation to alien assistance with technology? Thank You.
(NancyL) ZT: Atlantic was NOT a human society, but a society composed, dominated, by the advanced homoinoids from the 1`2th Planet.
(Inkpen) nancy: what would be some of the tasks of members of the integrated hybrib society, i mean what might consist of a daily routine or project(s)?
(NancyL) ZT: As we have described, they used crystals for communications, had rocket power, but these equated to no more than mankind had today.
(NancyL) End ZT to MikeO.
(Jeremy) I remember ZT said that humans wishing to remain in all-human communities would continue after the shift. I don't think that refusal of interation with aliens implies they would be STS necesssarily
(Nomis) Nancy Yes I have read it! But why there are so many "candidates"?? The coordinates are very exact X,XXXXX ???!
(NancyL) Steward, this depends on area, for some, most, not in your life time. Depends on your group, your orientation, etc.
(Phoenix) Do the Zetans not find any human art, literature or music worth the saving?
(NancyL) HBO, every 3,657 years, what is your Q? I don't understand it.
(Obany) !kick nomis keep your questions related please
(NancyL) Monk, please DO read a bit of ZT and TT, as to the extent of devastation.
(Stewart) when we re-incarinate - your saying its not guarenteed we'll end back on earth then?
(NancyL) ZT to Jeremey: Short Wave will be the communication mode of survivors, but this is NOT a high technology issue.
(NancyL) ZT: CB and Ham radios are in many hands, highly popular and much used, world wide.
(NancyL) ZT: Radios can be cranked up for power, devices that can be purchased today, and used by the military in the field.
(NancyL) ZT: NO power requirements. PC use in short wave packet relay is more complicated, but home computers are prevalents, and hackers can adjust to the requirements if they have access to written instructions ahead of time, and many will!
(NancyL) ZT: The community does not need ALL computer functioning, jsut one. It does not need MAJOR electrical support, just fast peddling on the bike gen rack for the hour.
(NancyL) ZT: It does not need boster towers on EVERY hill, as good hearted communities will find they are being boosted beyond their hopes, by helping hands behind the scenes.
(NancyL) End ZT to Jeremey.
(Jeremy) Nancy: My concern about the Internet in the Aftertime is NOT about communication methods, but rather equipment running down and being irreplacable. Unless of course there are gifts from STO alien groups, like the perpetual power pack
(Tseug) will solar and windmill energy be widely used?
(NancyL) JimW, re being given food or helped to produce, this depends on your orientation! Read the Transformation section re all this.
(EcclesP) If hydroponics is a potential solution to our food supply, the commuity will need more than bike generation of a 12volt battery to run the power-intensive plant lights.
(Phoenix) Good point, Eccles.
(NancyL) Jeremey, the criteria given here in ZT, tonight, was putting dependents, such as children, at risk and loss, by this refusal, etc.
(Obany) There are those who would have problems with living togheter with hybrids.and aliens.. i won't have a problem with it in fact
(Jeremy) Nancy: Ok, thx, I understand now :)
(NancyL) Nomis, there is ONE red and ONE white, and you misundertand "Speculation" which we share with the readership (who in the main can grasp this) to show the process as TEAM work.
(Spanky) how close was your story The Passage to the facts? considering it was written in 1995
(Tekk) my area will be flooded. is there anything I can do besides moving or dying?
(Jeremy) Obany: I would be welcoming to visitors from others worlds, but I just don't like this idea that you must embrace with open arms or else you get labelled as STS
(Torbj) i was in a room with one of the "tall ones" when given a little stone figure..."from the middle of the time"
(Inkpen) tekk... learn to swim :)
(NancyL) Tseug, this has been addressed in recent prior session, re what you can expect. Read BACK in the ZT What's New for a few months, also the Preview for 12/15, etc.
(NancyL) Spany, I don't find my story off kilter, it was written when I understood what would occur, etc.
(Tekk) for a lonnngg time
(Nomis) Nancy Thx!!!
(RnThomas) Nancy: what frequency will zetatalk be during the aftertime?
(Obany) well you and i are different on that ...
(NancyL) Tekk, flooded? Build a houseboat!
(Obany) rnthomas: has been anwered
(Spanky) but what you said was it would be DECADES, not a couple of months, before humans end up living in a dome like that with the hybrids
(ZetaCurious) Oran ark
(Redeye) Q for the zetas, in U.K. recently it was announced in a national tabloid that the stockpile order of smallpox vaccines had been doubled from 40million to 80 million so a mass innoculation could be possible to counter (so-called) terrorist attacks. What are the real intentions behind this ?
(Tekk) probably die from seasickness
(NancyL) Jeremey, have you MET many of them? They are not more horrid than humans!
(Yggdrasil) i dont know why im here
(Tekk) but that IS a good idea
(Juul) no they just clone and dissect
(Yggdrasil) is this realy gonna happen?
(NancyL) Spanky, if you are STS, or undecided, you will NOT arrive to living with aliens or hybirds, even if you live 100 years.
(Jeremy) Nancy: No, exactly, I would judge that for myself if I met them
(Tekk) how bout just sending me a form to join up with the hybrids. I'll work for food
(NancyL) ZT to Redeye: Smallpox anxiety by the UK and US are related to the Bush war mongering, and their expectation of repercussions.
(Jeremy) Tekk: lol
(Tekk) I'm serious
(NancyL) ZT: Since illness is expected from innocuations, and death, these innoculations will be heavily debated and resisted.
(Obany) Tekk: it does't work that way so
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is unlikely to BE mass innulations, especially since horror stories of bad reactions will come forth.
(NancyL) End ZT to Redeye.
(Stewart) vacinations always lead to some people getting ill...
(DaWeasel) does iraq have hiden WOMD ?
(NancyL) I had one last accepted Q:
(Jeremy) Nancy: I've noticed over the last few months and past year in fact, that cases of unusual diseases or rampant outbreaks of convnetional ones have escalataed significantly. I'm suprised ZT has not empahsised this as one of their major predictions that has really become apparent. Well to myself in particular
(Redeye) h thnk Nncy n zet
(NancyL) CRUISE SICKNESS
(NancyL) 1. Nancy can the zeta's say whether or not the recent cruise ship sickness were caused by chem trails or some NWO action?
(NancyL) ZT: We described in 1995 that mankind and animals alike would increasingly take sick, during the years and months going into the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: Germs migrate to new environments, due to climate changes, and humans and animals are under stress due to earth changes as well as climate changes.
(NancyL) ZT: There are germs mankind is unfamiliar with, that will become more aggressive, considered a NEW strain, unknown before.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, confused animals will migrate to wrong places, becoming weakened, and increase their vulnerability to germs and stress diseases.
(NancyL) ZT: All this, in our predictions, have come about, but with every new outbreak we get questioned as to what the CAUSE is.
(NancyL) ZT: A cruise ship has stomach flu, or food poisoning caused by distracted food handlers, and this is NOT out of keeping with our predictions on mankind increasingly making error in their everyday work due to subconscious worry, and the failure of their governments to addrss the earth changes they can see are occurring.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, in dividuals on a ship TALK more to one another, or perhaps have intimate interaction, where perhaps int he past would not, due to anxiety.
(NancyL) ZT: Personal guard is dropped, and it takes not much more than this for MANY groups to be infected. Hands no washed in wash rooms, a single family member bringing a germ into a room to infect the rest of the family, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: This is nothing more than has been predicted, and will INCREAE, due to distraction of humans, clmate changes, and dropping immune systems.
(NancyL) End ZT re this ...
(Torbj) this link will plot out the accual seismic stations arond the globe with info, 30 min intervall, available on the net.....go for it! http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/telemetry_data/map_sta_eq.shtml
(AGreenspan) The Z. which is responding today seems unusually emotional...(relatively speaking, of course)
(Jeremy) That more or less answered my previous Q!
(Agreg) Nancy Are we going to have trouble breathing, keeping our eyes clear,with all the ashe & germs in air do we need to filter air at first?
(Torbj) usgs thogh...
(Inkpen) i saw three flocks of migrating geese headed north east yesterday... whatever happened to south?
(NancyL) Thanks for noting this Jeremey, I just get too busy to collect and documnet all the ZetaTalk Accuracy thingies.
(NancyL) Now that the inbound PX is so VISIBLE and will LOOM upon us so rapidly, this is a moot point, anyway.
(Obany) This is the time to act so to speak right??
(Yggdrasil) im interested in gravity. and its true nature.
(AGreenspan) Say Z. - forget these idiotic questions.. tell me.. why are some of your telepath required to digest special capsules, and your emissary, I suspect does not?
(Yggdrasil) is there wanyone here that is knowledgable about this ?
(NancyL) AGreen, I get more impatient with dumb Q's etc and will get MORE so as time moves along, as time spend on time wasters can be better spend on those trying to prepare, etc.
(Torbj) a hug to you Nancy..... do you feel it?
(PlanetX) yay Nancy:)
(Inkpen) yggdrasil... quantum field theorys are far beyond our grasp right now, but i know a little i guess
(Mike-O) Nancy, thanks for putting in a marathon three-hour session today. All meat ... no potatoes.
(NancyL) Do you not agree, AGreen? If your children are running about, screaming, while you are trying to do CPR on a dying man, do you get sharp with them? Tolerate them? What are YOUR priorities?
(AGreenspan) You too, N. seems unusually curtious..
(Tekk) Nancy thank you for the houseboat suggestion. I'll work on it. I forgot about that one in my depression.
(NancyL) AHGreg, if in a volcanic dust area, certainly breathing is affected.
(ZetaCurious) remember Tekk, two of each animal
(Tekk) Lol. no problem
(S7L) And two females at least
(SteveH) might be good to have some surgical masks on hand
(SteveH) and some goggles
(Yggdrasil) is there realy anything that is beyond our grasp ?
(Juul) yes, and some insecticides
(Jeremy) I hope to move by February now. Will tell you when I've sold up on a coming session..
(ZetaCurious) i hope we all will be alughing about all of this come May
(NancyL) AGreen, who SAYS this stupid thing about capsules? My neighbor says you are made of green cheese! MUST be true, as she said it, right?
(Obany) SteveH: might be
(NancyL) Every dumb comment make by anyone is trotted out like TRUTH, FACT!
(AGreenspan) Let's see.. ask the Z. what da ya say?
(NancyL) And does the person saying this about capsules have a prediction accuracy track record?
(NancyL) Heaven's NO, they don't predict at all, they just make up stories.
(PlanetX) i add 2 sleep paralysis this years is this a vasitation for sure was really strange
(NancyL) MikeO, thanks for the compliment.
(Tseug) thanks, and best wishes, Nancy....
(Juul) prediction is most often not allowed, neither by mediums, neither by aliens
(NancyL) Well folks, stay tuned to the Planet X Sighting page as there will be more info posted when we do pixel analysis on Dec 4th images.
(Frank) Powerful and inspiring ZT and PS-discussion, Tnx Nancy!
(PlanetX) is Rael a truth starchild? he wanna cloned people now.is he message true?
(Domicle) Thanks Nancy for two great shows.
(NancyL) Plus, there is another imaging session being planned, in near future.
(Torbj) a little tip for everyone....bring along the Chessboard!
(Juul) take care Nancy and beware !
(ZetaCurious) Thanks NancyL
(Jeremy) Great session Nancy, thanks
(SteveH) Thanks Nancy!
(Obany) okay okay ... it where 2 good sessions ... thanks ....
(Phoenix) Yes, thanks Nancy Later
(Inkpen) thank u Nancy!
(PlanetX) damn i arrived late:)
(Redeye) thx Nancy and the zetas !
(NancyL) Px went from being 115% brighter than background in Sep/Oct to 133% over background on NOv 11th, to 147% over background on Nov15th (in just 4 days).
(Tekk) that does it
(PlanetX) i saw BBC reports something was near the sun
(NancyL) Now, after 3 weeks from Nov 15 to Dec 4th, and it is HUGE, relatively speaking, I'm expecting size and brightness BIG step up.
(Samsara2003) Cruise ship link: http://www.click10.com/mia/news/stories/news-180265420021122-171147.html
(LadyB) Nancy: In the afterlike will we possibly be expecting mutations of living life. What to expect? Thanx Nancy
(S7L) NancyL: what if the new thing yuo seem to have found is something like an asteroid and doesn't follow your path?
(Inkpen) px is starting to speed up
(Mad_Hatter) "What concerns me is not the way things are, but rather the way people think things are." --Epictetus (55-135)
(PlanetX) is the meteor ovni thing real?
(S7L) have you considered this very real possibility?
(Jeremy) PlanetX: When did you see those BBC reports?
(NancyL) Any math wizards who want to compute the relative size of Px now, compared to Jupiter and Uranus (see ../teams/rogue/pierre1.htm) would be appreciated.
(PlanetX) i have 4 question for u Nancy:)
(NancyL) Check the Distance chart, link from TOPIC at ../theword/tword032.htm for relative distance at this time.
(Obany) of course S7L, you just want it to be an asteroid i think
(Tekk) I checked Px sightings earlier, didn't see any new pics. could someone post url? thankws
(PlanetX) i add a sign telling me 133 day this week
(S7L) Obany: no. I do not want it to be anything. I'm only interested in what it is.
(NancyL) Well, hour is more than up, and I am going to try to get these logs ready for the web, and must work tomorrow.
(Inkpen) seeya Nancy thanx much
(QueenVee) Nancy: your time has been very appreciated
(S7L) It does not follow to conclude that this object, if it is a real object, is Planet X, simply because it happened to be somewhere in the region
(Obany) bye Nancy
(Tekk) thank you!
(NancyL) Bye all! Thanks for inspriring great ZetaTalk, and thanks to our loyal IRC cops for keeping order!
(JimW) NancyL: Thank for for your answers and your tireless devotion.
Session Close: Sat Dec 07 17:29:19 2002